But the productive land we're not using for biofuels is sitting idle. Trust me on this one, I've got 30 acres of it that they're paying me not to farm. If I had soybeans on it, I could make more in a good year than I get paid to not farm it, the extra demand would balance out the extra production, and we could stop giving money to people who hate us. Nuke and Coal don't help make a vehicle go down the road, at least not yet. The infrastructure isn't there for electric cars, and the culture isn't ready for same either. Too much change at once, y'see. Give 'em a fuel that's grown locally, that they can buy at the same places they go to now for fuel, _that_ will be accepted and used.
Yeah, it's interesting how he keeps doing that, and his supporters don't seem to notice and/or care.
Not possible. Worst that can happen from this is an unintentional release of radioactivity at a scale much closer to TMI than Chernobel. Certainly won't explode.
Not possible (the ka-boom-boom part).
Reprocess the waste into more fuel. Known and available technology (although the US shutdown its reprocessing facilities in the 70's, other countries still reprocess their spent fuel rods).
Reprocessing creates useful fuel from the waste. The waste from reprocessing is fairly low-level (half life in the 100 year range rather than 100,000 year range) and occupies little volume.
A dirty bomb is much overrated. The contamination produced by the explosion of a typical dirty bomb (medical isotopes or old fuel rods) will provide a radiation dose pretty close to background (its within the noise) outide of the immediate proximity (100's feet) of the explosion. [See the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists for details]. Anyone close enough to the explosion to be affected by any exposure to radiation is probably dead from the blast effects anyway. Granted decontam will need to be done, but on a fairly small (a block ortwo) scale.
Sure it sucks, but it ain't the end of the world, or even a singificant problem (excepting the inevitable irrational mass panic from the uneducated masses).
Note that the core of a dirty bomb is still conventional explosive and even a ton of TNT going off is relatively minor on the scale of a city.
watching those stupid fonda flix again are you? SNL had it right with the Pepsi Syndrome.
You're a couple centuries behind in your knowledge of synfuels.
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to mention IG Farben and the boys over there in Berlin making petrol for Messerschmitts.
Then you could farm that 30 and feed "the children" somewhere else. I'll keep my homestead > > If you take the coal we have and process it with the abundant energy of the
HE&M is still making some damn nice bandsaws with a flag on them- and the HEM guys still come out to do PMs and such. A lot of the other machines are older, so I suppose it's possible the companies are no longer around. But this area is still booming like crazy when it comes to manufacturing, and it's hard to believe the hype when I see the huge amounts of spin that the news programs are using when they report layoffs around here. I live in a small town, so I usually know someone that works at any given place, and there is usually a very good reason for layoffs that has nothing to do with China or Korea.
You mean all that American industrial equipment like Okuma, Hitachi Seiki, Mazak, Mori Seiki, Komatsu, Matsuura, Karaki ect? Yep, use that stuff daily. How about that English made Bridgeport?
existed before today" or whatever you're trying to say I'm saying.
Yes, I'm aware of it.
I never brought up feeding "the children", I made the point that I'd rather we support USA'n farmers with our money, than give that same money to a bunch of Arabs who want to kill us.
Maybe you're responding to a different message than the one I wrote? That'd make more sense than thinking it's actually about my post.
I merely pointed out that heat and coal have been making fuel suitable for vehicles for a long time.
Further, I didn't attribute "feed the children" to you. It's a stock liberal phrase. And a better use for land than growing and blowing it through a tailpipe, even though ****CAUTION NEW INFORMATION*** the park service vehicles they're fuelling with grease from fast food frycookers hereabout do have an intriguing smell. ***END NEW INFORMATION***
Ah, I see. Since you didn't, you know, include that context, I didn't know that that was what you were talking to.
The problem with coal gasification (I'm familiar with it; my grandfather was a chemical engineer in a coal gas plant in Milwaukee for decades - google "Milwaukee Solvay" and my last name for confirmation). The thing is, that's (a) just transforming one fuel into another, and (b) not something that will run in unmodified vehicles of today. Contrast this to biodiesel and/or gasoline/alcohol blends, where the same people can fill their same cars at the same stations using the same pumps, with a product that is at least partially domestically produced. Changing too much of consumer's pattern at once is going to result in a technology not being widely adopted. This is why hydrogen cars continue not to happen, but why hibrid/electrics are more viable and available.
How does coal gas work in a current unmodified automobile? Where can I fill up on it today? Use that chemical energy for something it's more suited for; stationary applications. It's not a good fit for wide mobile distribution and point-of-use combustion.
I wouldn't know, not being one.
First of all, your attitude is getting in the way of presenting your point, which I'm _still_ not sure what the hell it is. Secondly, I am very familiar with the current state of biodiesel and the various sources from which it can be obtained.
As far as "feeding the children" with my land, if that's what your point is saying I should be doing (rather than growing soybeans for oil, or letting it sit in the Clinton-era contracts to lay fallow rather than farm), well, I guess that's a choice I get to make. Once those contracts expire, I can either choose to continue to grow the trees on it, or to do whatever else is economically feasable, and/or technically interesting and or possible with it.
Yawn. I'm sure if you have an actual point and/or value to add to this conversation, you could do better than whatever that was. Couple of questions: are you disagreeing that the arabs don't like us? Do you agree or disagree that it is preferable to spend money supporting USA'n farmers, as compared to sending that same money to people in arabic countries?
If you agree that the local farmers are more deserving than the people who want to kill us, then would you agree that a solution which improves both aspects of that equation would be one to pursue?
All right, I'll give you Mazak and Bridgeport. Honestly, though- I've never seen the others around here, with the exception of forklifts. This is probably a case where I should open my mouth and insert foot. It just seems like in a lot of cases where I'm at people are only unemployed because they don't want to work, and I have a hard time trusting anything the media tells me anymore.
If you have an industry that does much machining, they are around. The Japanese dominate the CNC machine tool market and have for many years. You do see a fair amount of Haas and Fadal (American made) though those are sold to the type of people that shop at Harbor Freight. Pretty low quality machines but they are cheap.
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