Give me a break. Blood lust, Power lust? A bunch of Europeans came
upon a continent, rich with resources and populated by stone age people.
They did what anybody with their moral and ethical background would do
and exploited it. We are the result. Fat, dumb and happy. The
solution to everyone having "enough" on this planet is population
control. In the short, selfish term, it means population control in the
United States. There's a lot to go around on this planet if the number
to whom it must "go around" is small. If that number is sufficiently
large, there can never be enough to go around. Sooner or later, humans
will take steps to control their numbers or natural forces will
intervene and it won't be pretty.
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 00:20:10 -0500, Robert Galloway
The U.S. is hardly and issue on the population front. Our actual birth
rate is only slightly above replacement, while much of the world is
several times that. The population growth in the U.S. is largely
fueled by immigration.
Fat, dumb and happy?!?! Speak for yourself. Personally, I've still got a
bit o' that blood and power lust. It's got me thinking upgrading the motor
in my Jet tablesaw, and removing all safety guards from my other power
This is a part of the problem. US is spending way too much money on
military, and US cannot just sell the military products to any other
country. This means US is sinking a lot of money on something that it
cannot sell freely. If US had cut its spending on military and others,
given the tax saving to private companies to encourage capital
investment (_in_ US), US could have many many state of the art
factories that produce many wonderful products -- and at a low cost;
that would have sold well in the domestic and global market.
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 21:08:28 -0400, "Eric Anderson"
Industrial grade equipment (excluding forklifts, for the most part)
almost always has a made in the USA tag on it, as far as I've seen in
any factory around here. I can't imagine using a brake press that was
made in China out of plastic and tin. Maybe it is all dying out, but
it really doesn't seem like it on the production floor.
More and more machines are being made overseas. In my business, molding foam
plastics, the dozen of so US manufacturers are all gone. Last one was
closed about a dozen years ago.
I can buy machines from Austria, Italy, Germany, Japan, Korea.
It is good to see that companies like Minster are still around but others
have shut the doors. Heald, and many like them are long gone.
HE&M is still making some damn nice bandsaws with a flag on them- and
the HEM guys still come out to do PMs and such. A lot of the other
machines are older, so I suppose it's possible the companies are no
longer around. But this area is still booming like crazy when it
comes to manufacturing, and it's hard to believe the hype when I see
the huge amounts of spin that the news programs are using when they
report layoffs around here. I live in a small town, so I usually know
someone that works at any given place, and there is usually a very
good reason for layoffs that has nothing to do with China or Korea.
You mean all that American industrial equipment like Okuma, Hitachi Seiki,
Mazak, Mori Seiki, Komatsu, Matsuura, Karaki ect? Yep, use that stuff daily.
How about that English made Bridgeport?
All right, I'll give you Mazak and Bridgeport. Honestly, though- I've
never seen the others around here, with the exception of forklifts.
This is probably a case where I should open my mouth and insert foot.
It just seems like in a lot of cases where I'm at people are only
unemployed because they don't want to work, and I have a hard time
trusting anything the media tells me anymore.
If you have an industry that does much machining, they are around. The
Japanese dominate the CNC machine tool market and have for many years. You
do see a fair amount of Haas and Fadal (American made) though those are sold
to the type of people that shop at Harbor Freight. Pretty low quality
machines but they are cheap.
The Chinese are catching up to us on the total CO2. The per capita is way
down, but it is a matter or ratios in a highly populated but not fully
industrialized country. I'd like to see comparitive figures as we import
more from them. That was 1997.
I do know that we are soon installing about $500,000 in equipment to reduce
emissions at our company. (not that it is a bad thing environmentally) It is
required in most areas of the US, but not at all in China.
Unfortunately, this is true. With more people getting richer, they
start driving cars around instead of riding bicyles. This increases
the CO2 emission and pollution in China.
I heard that China will be using a different type of nuclear power
plants to produce electricity, and its by-products is hydrogen that
will probably be used in fuel cells or in the form of liquid hydrogen
that will power cars. Hopefully, this will significantly reduce CO2
emssion and pollution. Unfortunately this is all long term. I don't
see any short term solution.
On 18 Oct 2004 11:20:48 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org (Jay Chan) wrote:
China is planning to use output from some of its future
nuclear plants to produce hydrogen, but that's not a
function of the new design. The "new design" is actually
an evolution and refinement of an old one from the 1950's
that the US and Europe decided not to use. The most
important aspect of it is that it is largely immune to meltdown.
I believe it's called the Pebble Bed Reactor. The Pebble Bed Reactor
is an advanced nuclear reactor design. This technology claims a
dramatically higher level of safety and efficiency. Instead of water,
it uses helium as the coolant, at very high temperature, to drive a
turbine directly. This eliminates the complex steam management system
from the design, and increases the transfer efficiency (ratio of
electrical output to thermal output) to about 50%.
The technology in various forms is under development by MIT, the South
African power utility Eskom, General Atomic (U.S.), the Dutch company
Romaha B.V., Adams Atomic Engines, a U.S. Company, and the Chinese
company Chinergy, working with Tsinghua University.
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