I think this qualifies for gloat status:
Was shopping at Rockler after Xmas to check out their clearance items.
Sliding table : Regular $249, 25% off on clearance.
Then I see they have an in-store coupon for an additional 50% off any
already clearanced item, so that would be about $93! So I grab the
sliding table and when he rings it up:
Instead of doing 25% off and then 50% to get $93, he does 75% off the
total price instead!
Bottom line = Sliding table for $62! And all I came in for was a
magnetic wristband, which I forgot because I was too jazzed!
Since they had 2 of them, I called a pal o mine and he ran down and
grabbed up the second one, which the dude rung up the same way.
I installed the table and it works very well (especially for that
price!). Anyone else have comments about using this table? (Its the
same as the Mule sliding table, rebranded for rockler).
Woodshopdemos.com had some helpful hints for installing it.
Personally, I think you should have stopped the gloat just before you knowly
took advantage of someone else's mistake. You already had a good price,
bully for you. But I think the GGV (gross gloat value) is reduced for
cheating. It's like taking advantage of the widder-women.
Just my $0.02CDN. And yes, before you ask, I have stopped a transactions
when I thought the clerk was ringing things through incorrectly (in my
favor). Bully for me, I know...
I disagree. To me "an additional 50%" added to 25% off = 75% off. Whenever
stores take 50% the ORIGINAL price, and 25% off the ORIGINAL price THAT is
cheating, not the other way around. I think the way this worked out is
exactly how it should happen.
I would assume that if something was 75% off they would have some sort of
clause saying no additional coupons accepted or some such thing. I have
bought items at computer stores with instant rebates that made them cost $0
and they included mail in rebates, so they DID essentially pay me to take
the stuff home.
Percentages off are handled differently than dollar amounts off. The
original poster assumed, as do Frank and I, that the final price would be
.75 * .50 * retail price, not retail price - (0.25 * retail price) - (0.5 *
retail price). If he had assumed your justification, he wouldn't have come
up with an expected price of 93, which he did.
Anyways, you guys live your lives the way you want to, teach your kids the
values you want, and I'll do the same. Rockler is probably going to
survive, and was probably losing money on the deal regardless. The person
at the front counter who can't do math will probably still have his job
tomorrow, and the world will continue to turn.
I still think it reduces the GGV, in any case. That's all I'm saying.
I understand what you're saying very well. To me it just makes more sense
to say "take 50% the already reduced price" rather than "take an additional
50% off". The word additional can mean a lot of things in this context. To
me it sounds like "add this new discount to the initial one and then take
the discount". Rockler should be smart enough to know to say "already
reduced price", IMO. GGV is retained at 100% hehe.
Well, I guess I have more faith in a company like Rockler to properly phrase
a sale advertisement than I do in someone reporting a gloat to exactly
replicate the sales statement, if you know what I mean. In any case, I
thought the OP (who hasn't responded to the slanderous statements being made
about him, BTW) was thinking he got an even better deal because the clerk
was making a mistake. After re-reading his post, he didn't ever claim that
he thought he was getting a an even better deal than he originally though.
I assumed that, which was wrong of me. For all I know, he might have
thought he made a mistake in the calculation, or that Rockler had a
"special" way of calculating it that was different than every other store
out there, or whatever.
Rob, where-ever you are, I apologize for thinking that you were additionally
gloating about being able to take advantage of someone else's mistake based
on your original post. I still have a suspicion that you knew that the
clerk was making a mistake, but you didn't say anything, but that's making
assumptions that I probably shouldn't. It still seems too close to taking
advantage of someone else who doesn't know any better, like the old widder
woman selling off her husband's Unisaw for $100. In any case, I probably
didn't need to crap on your parade route.
He says he was charged $62 instead of the $93 he was expecting. He knew the
cashier was making a mistake and just took it.
That is exactly the same as seeing someone drop money and quickly picking it
up before the guy looks around and sees it. In other words, it is stealing.
It says, "clearanced item," not "clearance item's already unbelievably low
It is possible the clerk rang it up right:
10% clearance + 50% coupon = 60% discount
25% clearance + 50% coupon = 75% discount
40% clearance + 50% coupon = 90% discount
This may not be the case, but I see nothing in the verbiage that *requires*
the 50% discount applies to the discounted price instead of the full price.
Agreed it's contrary to what usually happens, but I believe I've had sales
which were percentage additive. IIRC there was a Hecht's sale like that.
10% off, bring in the 25% coupon from the paper, get 35% off in toto.
The clerk may not have been "Huckleberry Dumbbell" but *could* have been
ringing things up as instructed.
It's tough condemning someone before all the *facts* are in.
discount off retail, with another 10% for orders over $1000. That type of
thing was standard in the industry; the hardware industry as a matter of
Anyhow, once or twice a year somebody would give me a hard time over why
they only got a 55% discount, rather than a 60% discount. It didn't happen
often, but it was sure aggravating when it did. I suppose with ten thousand
customers, some of them are bound to have new and undertrained clerks now
I haven't seen the Hecht's sale, but I suspect it wasn't like that; I've
never seen one that was.
Congrats on the gloat!
A "gloat," by it's very definition, is a sly or malicious pleasure -
typically at another's expense. With very little effort perusing this
newsgroup, you will find many such examples; some entirely innocuous, some a
bit more in the gray.
For instance, price matching or percentage cash back is a method by which
one vendor tries to gain competitive advantage over another. It is very
common practice of the frequenters of this forum to knowingly manipulate
this marketing method to their advantage when they know full well that one
business or the other will lose out.
We then post that as a "gloat." "Hey everybody, look what I got away with!
Look how I rooked the system!"
Saying this lucky fella is "stealing" is a bit much for me. Though can be
typical of folks who are filled with a sense of righteous indignation mixed
with a false bravado the anonymity of the Internet provides them.
Regards... and congrats!
Sure and you can shave a few dollars off that income tax
or coast through that stop sign. The US will continue to
exist and your town will still be safe. But that doesn't
change the fact that it's wrong. If that's the values you
intend to teach your kids well, there's nothing more to say.
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