seriously OT: Bill Gates still greedy after all these years.

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While shopping in a faraway Costco I got intrigued by an optical cordless mouse for $36 (Microsoft), so after making sure it fit my hand, I repackaged it and threw it in the cart.
As I went to install it I see a warning tag on the connector to install the software first. I rip the CD package open, insert the CD, shutdown other apps and prepare for my new toy. Double click on "setup.exe" and it all turns to sh*t. The mouse only works on XP, 2000, etc.; not Windows 98! Jeez! It's just a frickin' mouse!
I go online to see what's up and damn if EVERY Microsoft mouse I checked on won't work with 98. Thanks a bunch, Billy boy!
I check out Logitech optical cordless mice and sure enough, as expected, they will work with 95 and 98, as well they should. Don't ya just love capitalism at it's finest?? sigh.
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Uh, just when exactly did Bill point his .45 ACP at you to force you to buy his mouse?
Didn't think so.
And yes, capitalism is (mostly) swell.
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MSFT announced quite a while ago, that 98 was officially no longer supported.
Brian.

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Go to the Logitec site and get the latest "mouseware". I bet it will work. Microsoft never had an original idea, I bet they got the mouse from Logitec. My MS scroll mouse works fine on mouseware.
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I got it to work, Greg. only the left/right scroll button feature is inop. no biggie there.
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Logitec.
After working in the MS hardware group for many years, I can assure you that MS didn't get the mouse from Logi...
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RWM wrote:

Right! The stole it from PARC Dave in Fairfax
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yeah, I guess you can't get more official than dropping mouse support for Win98.
I got the last laugh though; I got the mouse to work on my pc. so Billy boy, if your listening (although I know you aren't)...[Bronx cheer]. The mouse is cool but your support (or lack thereof) blows! The left/right scrolling doesn't work, but I don't care about that.
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Bay Area Dave wrote:

If you want left-right scrolling then get an IBM. That wiggly-wheel nonesence is just a clumsy attempt to work around IBM's scrollpoint/trackpoint patent.

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Actually Microsoft renounced that comment and will support 98 for at least 2 more years IIRC
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...but they un-announced that partially and said that ME IS still supported. So, in effect, 98 is supported.
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wrote:

Is anyone still running that gawdawful piece of crap?
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Bay Area Dave wrote:

I don't know what's stopping you from upgrading operating systems, unless your machine is so far out of date as to not be upgradable. Win XP is 1000 times the operating system that 98 was, and I used 98 for a long time.
Go ahead; bite the bullet and make the upgrade. You're fighting a losing battle trying to keep 98 alive.
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It all depends on what you do. I still have 4 machines running DOS, it is all they need to do their job. (MP3 players) If you just play a few simple games, surf the net and maybe run all the bookkeeping for a fairly large company, W9x will be all you need. Gates, et al have been very successful in convincing people bigger is always better. It really just depends on the quality of the cartoons you need in your GUI.
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snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (Greg) wrote in

The statement that XP is only "bigger" and better "quality of the cartoons" compared to Win9X is way off mark. XP is so far more powerful and stable, I couldn't possibly run a Win9X box ever again. As a PC/Network Support Specialist for a large community college, the greatest thing we have done was upgrading from Win98 boxes to Xp on everybodys desk. The amount of headaches has sharply declined.
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I doubt most of us are running a large network with a 1000 would be hackers operating our machined doing god knows what. If your application is stable, your platform can be too.
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You may not be administering a large network, but if you are on the Internet, you are part of one. With, I might add, many thousands of hackers.
I have a cable modem and when I look at my BlackICE logs (firewall and anti-intrusion software), I have about 50+ hits/day from would-be intruders. Most are harmless, but about 25% of those hits are of the type which indicate intent to cause harm.
I get at least 5-6 hits per week on my anti-virus software from spam email and simple web page viewing.
And at least 5-6 hits per week on my spyware detection software from spam.
I can't say enough about the benefits of BlackICE software. When CodeRed and Nimda hit, I had just reinstalled Windows 2000 and put BlackICE on it. I hadn't gotten around to installing any service packs or security updates or anti-virus software. By the time I got home from work, there were reports of servers going down everywhere, Internet traffic slowing to a crawl, and other reports of mass IT chaos.
I checked my box, prepared to wipe it and start over. I looked at the BlackICE logs. My jaw hit the floor. Not a single event penetrated my box. There were hundreds for hits but all were blocked. I installed my eTrust anti-virus, updated the signatures list and scanned the box. Nothing.
It saved my ass again when the SQL Slammer hit. Fricken cool.
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XP had a security hole in it you could drive a truck through. I assume they fixed it but it sure did not inspire confidence from me.
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Greg wrote:

And Windows 98 doesn't? ROF,L.
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I wasn't replying to the security aspects of XP, was replying to the notion that XP is just a bloated version of Win9X with prettier graphics (altho the default XP 'Teletubbies" theme is far from prettier). I'm well aware of XP's shortcomings in the security issues, however it's still far better than any Win9X/ME product.
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