Sandpaper and something to get you off your Off topic rants.

[tiredofspam]

Since you guys seem rather lacking a real woodworking topic, I thought I would start one.

No flies, no Bush league stuff, no crapola.

I was making some sandpaper storage units, got tired of having curled paper, or having to sift through tons of different grades/ manufacturers. And tired of lining up holes on my ROS.

Anyway I started using up some different papers.

I have a load of Mirka, and a little 3x Norton, regular Norton, and 3M Freecut.

Some opinions:

The mirka white paper is useless. I have to use it up. In a few strokes there is no grit left. It turns a gray and is pretty much gone...

Mirka gold, is quite a bit better than the white. It last much longer.

3M freecut gold ... lasts quite a bit, but turns the wood gold or yellow.

Norton Gold regular, like the Mirka it lasts pretty ok.

Norton 3x AWESOME... it lasts and lasts. The grit just hangs in there, it doesn't load up the same as the stuff above. I don't know what it is about this stuff, but it will be what I buy going forward. I have not tried Klingspor, So I can't compare.

[RonB]

Yeah, I have noticed recently that we are starting to look like this bunch:

recent level of labeled or unlabeled OT's is increasing.

RonB

[Swingman]

Try posting woodworking content and the same five or six folks post a message or two, then it's over.

I agree that Norton's 3x sandpaper is indeed one of the best sandpapers, if not the best, out there that can be bought locally.

[Larry Blanchard]

That pretty much matches my experiences. I don't know if the Norton actually lasts 3 times as long, but it definitely lasts longer. It might even exceed the 3 times.

[dpb]

On 7/26/2011 10:39 AM, tiredofspam wrote: ...

There was a review (which I haven't read yet) of various vendors in recent FWW...noticed they did do measured testing of removal rates, longevity, estimated from those a cost-effectiveness for each as the end result.

For routine 5" round I use pressure sensitive in bulk rolls obtained from the local auto-body supply. It's generally either 3M or Norton; quite a lot cheaper/sheet than any of the other alternatives in pricing and at least as good as any except very expensive Klingspor. I've not done much volume recently so still working on last batches so not sure what current pricing actually is but I'd suggest checking it out for those who do use large enough quantities that a large roll isn't overstocking _too_ greatly...

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[Just Wondering]

I went on ebay a few years ago and got over 500 sheets of sandpaper for about 50 bucks. Mostly 3-M brand, aluminum oxide, garnet, wetordry (in grits up to 2,000), a variety of other stuff. It's more flat paper than I'm likely to use in my lifetime.

Especially now that most of my sanding is with a Bosch, even though those disks run between 50 cents and a buck each, because it does such a better job than any other kind of sanding I've tried. So, I'd personally like to know, where's the best source for 5" hook-and-eye, 8-hole pattern ROS paper?

[Robatoy]

I have noticed that storage affects the paper's longevity as well. Humidity just kills some of the Mirka paper-backed stuff. In sheets, I really like the Norton3X a lot, except that here, Home Depot is stupidly expensive.

[Leon]

I have found that Festool paper lasts pretty good and especially the "Crystal" papers. Part of the longer life from the Festool papers is because the superior dust collection when coupled with a vac. With less dust build up the paper stays cooler and lasts longer and does not clog as quickly. I have found that with the Crystal Festool paper that I can sand the squeezed out glued joints of 7-8 drawers with out glue clogging the paper. Down side is that you would probably need a Festool sander for that paper, or that could be a good thing.

[HeyBub]

I see you want to start a conversation about the Bush administration and its relationship to sandpaper. As you recall, Bush was in a league, the American League, as managing partner of the Texas Rangers baseball team. Sandpaper, as you may also know, is stricktly prohibited in baseball (unscrupulous pitchers sometimes used a bit of sandpaper to rough up the ball, making difficult throws easier).

Monitoring sandpaper usage gave Dubya a unique perspective and honed skills that would become useful later in his presidency. For example, detecting WMDs even though they were well hidden.

[George Watson]

.. seems as though your criteria fit with my ethic:->

This is one for "riddle me" types, maybe.. but let's give it a shot?

Sometime ago I was bequeathed what did appear as an unfinished project. Labeled by a plywood tag - twitched to the work with a piece of baling twine - was the inscription "CHESS TABLE".

The structure is coffee table height, of Black Walnut material (a rather valuable rainforest timber) and completely finished to sand and oil stage. With it were two sticks of timber some

2' in length, one of Red Cedar and the other (I am told) Baltic Pine - or possibly Milky Pine (if local timber). The surface or the tabletop consisted of a random configuration of vacant inlays - isosceles triangles of 3", circles of 3" in diameter and 9²" squares. All to a depth of 7/16". Now (today) the project remains as it is was delivered. Only because - as said on my knocking again on the door of - I do my best work in metals. Timber, particularly using precious materials and no "leeway", does not offer the "weld and grind" escape route metals do offer in precision work. Despite the efforts of 3m®, Bear® and Selleys®, products in boasting "fix anything" timber cannot be made to "grow to fit" - on the job. So once I worked out how to proceed the project was wrapped once again an' placed in storage, with a warm smile in recognising the 'wit' of my benefactor. A "smart-arse" ol' "bushie" of yesteryear... having a last laugh.

The question is. What form factor were the two sticks supplied as material for inlay fill. round [ ] square [ ] rectangular [ ] something else [ ] ? ? ? A clue? The answer came to me whilst "babysitting" my

3yr old GD, an avid Sesame Street fan. Positively interesting are the messages in Sesame Street productions.. for Big Peoples :-) george

[GooeyTarballs]

Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Aug 2, 10:03 pm).

Curious, how does one set this up? I went to the Edit Profile and saw no such option.

[dpb]

On 7/26/2011 10:39 AM, tiredofspam wrote: ...

I mentioned earlier a comparison in FWW recently...

Looked it up; turns out it was in FHB instead (last issue)

Of those they rated, Klingspor VD900 was rated tops overall and also best value.

Unfortunately, the selection wasn't all that extensive and the Norton-branded used wasn't 3X so there's no way to tell how they would have stacked up head to head in their evaluation.

Mirka Gold was in the pack; maybe 2nd for one of the grits used...

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[Larry Blanchard]

There is, or was, a flag one could set in the header that said "do not archive". In Pan there is a profile section called "Extra Headers" which I suspect is where the flag could be added.

But it is up to the archival site to honor that flag or ignore it.

[Dave]

On Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:05:45 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard

And for those of you that are using Forte Agent, this option is under folder properties/usenet options.

[Dave]

Wording error, it's under Folder Properties or Default Properties/Usenet Options.

[Josepi]

Another sock puppet of the troll responds to keep the troll going.

But it is up to the archival site to honor that flag or ignore it.

[Larry Blanchard]

I'd like to see your proof that I've ever posted under any name but my own. On second thought, don't bother - I won't see it.

[-MIKE-]

Oh geez, is this douchenozzle up to this again? I already went around that circle with him. He's a broken record. I honestly hopes he gets a job and moves out of Mom's basement so he can one day, possibly, get laid.

[Dave]

Honestly, do you really want to take the chance of him procreating? Darwin's law is supposed to be "survival of the fittest" not who might get lucky.

[m II]

Oh look! Three of your personalities in the same thread repeating the same thing???

Wot a surprise, George!

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