Ryobi/Crafstman detail biscut joiner comments

After running across the term "R1 biscuit" and googling it and finding out what they were, I've repeatedly had project in which I said to myself "gee, one of those detail biscuits would be nice right here". Well, was down to Sears yesterday and they had one in stock, I bought it on impulse.
Tried it out today. It does what they say and the biscuits really _are_ tiny, here's a photo with the Porter Cable FF on the end for comparison <http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id19761020&size=m .
I find one major flaw in the design of the tool so far--the fence has a bevel adjacent to the cutter that is wide enough for quarter inch stock to slip into. This is not a problem when slotting an edge or end but makes accurate slot placement very diffcult when slotting into the side of a piece of stock. When time permits it doesn't look like it would be too hard to make up a new fence that addresses this.
A minor flaw is that the fence position is adjustable in fixed increments and the increments--given the nature of the tool a micrometer adjustment would be very convenient, but for 70 bucks maybe I'm expecting too much.
Other than that, well, it's a neat concept. The biscuit are thin, it really is possible to put them in the edge of a piece of 1/4 inch stock, which is what I was looking for.
I'm not sure why this tool didn't do better in the market, perhaps it was a case of the marketers not understanding the niche it fits. Or maybe with work that size it's just easier to slot it on a router table.
For picture framing it looks like the bees' knees, for small boxes and the like out of the box it's not so hot.
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I have a Craftsman biscuit joiner and I am not pleased with it.
Sears refused to take it back so I am stuck with it.
After trying and trying, I learned that the adjustment is not precise.
I do not use it anymore for tabletop or frames. I only use it for rough work.
I am looking around to get something better like Freud or a cut above.

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On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:07:06 +0000, marierdj wrote:

The adjustement on the detail biscuit joiner is very precise--it's stepped in a manner similar to an Incra jig, the problem is that the steps are larger than I would expect given the intended use of the tool.
Please understand that this is a different tool from a "regular" biscuit joiner--I can do things with this that I can't do with my Porter-Cable--its _smallest_ biscuit, as the photo shows, is larger than the detail joiner's _largest_.
If you're looking for a general purpose biscuit joiner and can't afford a Lamello, the Porter Cable works fine.

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Thanks, I'll have another look at the Porter-Cable

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wrote:

used it on a number of boxes made with 1/4 to 1/2 thick sides. I have used it less often on picture frame miters. I have not had a need to buy the biscuits for a while but have noted that they are no longer in stock at Home Depot or Lowes nor at Woodcraft. I do believe that Sears still carries them. BTW I am getting a Porter Cable biscuit joiner for Christmas (funny how I know that) and actually don't envision ever changing out the cutter to the FF cutter as the Ryobi detail joiner should meet all of those needs.
Dave Hall
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You might take a look at the Dewalt too. I have owned one for about seven years and I am very satisfied. I saw a new one in the store a few days ago and they haven't changed much.
RonB

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OOPs - Ever get distracted and post a response to the wrong item?
Now I have!
It's Hell to get old.
RonB

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Well....Yeah, so far.
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My neighbor has one, with a standing offer to let me use it for maybe the last 5 or 6 years. Haven't thought I needed it yet. Maybe someday.
I did, in ignorance, buy a bottle of the PC FF biscuits, shortly after buying my DeWalt plate jointer. That bottle hasn't done any good yet. ;-)
Glad you're happy with the tool.
Patriarch
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