Robin Hartl - the real story about leaving Hometime

[Max]

I have a friend who knows Robin. Here's the real scoop.

Hometime offered to renew her contract for the 13th season last August-04. Throughout 2004, Dean and Robin participated as spokespersons for Little Giant Ladder and shot an infomercial demonstrating the product. Within months, the infomercial was ranked among the top 10 in the country.

Little Giant Ladder replaced Dean with Richard Karn (Al from the sitcom Home Improvement) and asked Robin to continue as a spokesperson and shoot a new infomercial with Richard. As I understand it, because of her contract with Hometime, she had to leave the show in order to take the deal with Little Giant.

Apparently the deal was too good to pass up. So she declined the offer to renew with Hometime for a 13th season.

[Max]

I have a friend who knows Robin. Here's the real scoop.

Hometime offered to renew her contract for the 13th season l­ast August-04. Throughout 2004, Dean and Robin participated as spokespersons for Little Giant Ladder and shot an infomercia­l demonstrating the product. Within months, the infomercial wa­s ranked

among the top 10 in the country.

Little Giant Ladder replaced Dean with Richard Karn (Al from­ the sitcom Home Improvement) and asked Robin to continue as a spokesper­son and shoot a new infomercial with Richard. As I understand it, be­cause of

her contract with Hometime, she had to leave the show in ord­er to take the deal with Little Giant.

Apparently the deal was too good to pass up. So she declined­ the offer to renew with Hometime for a 13th season.

[Upscale]

Just the fact that you've posted this comment a number of times consecutively, would lead some to doubt the veracity of your statement. At the very least, it makes you look like you're posting it to garnish some attention for yourself.

[Edwin Pawlowski]

Never had a news server hiccup on you did you? Internet communications via Usenet is far from perfect.

[Upscale]

Sure, it's happened to me, but when it's happened, all the messages have had the same time stamp. His four postings were all minutes apart and in similar, but different threads. That's not a hiccup, it's repeated posting.

[Edwin Pawlowski]

My server shows them all in the same thread. Two have time stamps four minutes apart. Every once is a while I'll see a posting repeated with a time stamp of a week or two previous. You say four postings, but I only see three here. I'll try to remember to check on it at work as it is a different ISP and servers.

[Upscale]

You don't even have to do that Ed. In this particular thread, look at his first posting and the one the following day. Same words, but the line spacing is different. Hiccups might repost, but they don't rearrange line spacing.

[Chuck Hoffman]

I count five posts on this topic...two more than the OP's. Is this a waste of bandwidth? Or have the net police arrived on the scene of a "crime?"

[Ed Clarke]

I suspect "driver error". Save (think you're saving), make a little change, "save" again and then discover you've been posting instead of saving.

[Max]

Upscale,

You are correct. Unlike you, who is obviously an experienced "poster" with some 1630 messages on this group alone, this was the first (and probably last) attempt to communicate through this type of medium. I thought I made a mistake on the first post attempt so I sent a second post w/o realizing the first post had been actually been submitted.

So please accept my apologies for posting two messages, which unfortunately diverted your attention and lead you to erroneous conclusions.

As to your analysis that "At the very least, it makes you look like you're posting it "to garnish some attention for yourself," you are "at the very least" wrong. I was simply attempting to help a friend who has co-hosted a home improvement TV show for 12 years by addressing a growing number of questions from posters in various groups as to why she left the show with factual representations regarding her departure.

As to your observations regarding the "veracity" of my "statement", if you are really interested, click the following sites

Max

[Upscale]

Seeing as how you're experienced enough to search out how many times I've posted, I have to wonder how you could make a newbie mistake like hitting the send button without knowing that you might be reposting. One would further wonder how you accomplished that error by posting three times including the gap of nine hours between your first message and the second. Were you too lazy after those nine hours to confirm that your post had actually arrived? Must have been some type of server delay error. Weird how that server error is now cleared up so you can argue the point.

If I'd been absolutely sure that you'd done it on purpose, I'd have worded it so. As it was, I simply stated how it looked Max, which left the question open to some doubt. Obviously, you want to take it as an unwavering accusation. That's your prerogative. Seeing your reply, my prerogative now is to believe that you're either careless or just don't care.

Post here or don't post here, but at the very least, grow a thicker skin or you won't survive for very long.

Have a good day.

[Upscale]

No argument, I've seen that happen, just not over a nine hour period. I guess there's a first time for anything. Doesn't matter. Max has decided that I've directly accused him instead what it was, a suggestion of how it looks, which to me anyway, entailed at least a little doubt. I guess I'm now a big, mean net cop. Oh, the shame of it. :)

[dteckie]

Side note about Little Giant Ladders. Nice ladder but way overpriced and long, long wait, from Wing the manufacturer of the Little Giant Ladder. Ordered my ladder Dec. 5 2004, expecting to receive by xmas. All I received was a coupon and apologies the week before xmas that my ladder wil be shippped early January of 05. With the letter they said they are adding more shifts to get orders out. second week of January I called Wing for update on order and after the obligatory 45 min wait "for next available person" they said they did not have record of my order. Well emailed person made my purchase from asking what is problem and for a shipper track number when they ship. I received the ladder last week Jan 27, 2005. Two days later they emailed me the shipper number. That's my story nice ladder but overpriced and not worth the wait. There are a lot of similar knockoffs just as good, I have one from costco smale but as good less than half the price. Robin made a big mistake in my opinion leaving Hometime for Little Giant ladder infomercial, guess she went for Money and more exposure.

[B a r r y]

Many items I've seen sold via infomercials are either overpriced, crap, or both. The whole purpose of an infomercial is to generate hype beyond what is possible in 30 seconds.

Look what's typically sold via infomercial: Exercise equipment Diet plans and pills Get rich schemes Tools and appliances that solve problems that are either nonexistent, or easily solved with something you already own.

Barry

[bripen]

Hmmm...Looks like one needs the thicker skin because guys that are obviously wrong won't admit it.

[B a r r y]

Without some quoted material, some of us have no idea what you're referring to.

Barry

[ROBMURR]

I ordered my LG at a woodworking show about 8+ years ago and it sure gets borrowed a lot. I had it out when my Gutter man was out to replace a gutter and let him use it..He uses ladders everyday for 15years but not LG, Commented that he really liked it. He liked it even more when both he and I got on it to check something. There are cheaper knock offs I am sure out there. Last time I priced an emergency room visit it was a lot more than my LG ladder. I guess they have been swamped by people buying their ladder and why you had such a problem getting thru. My local hardware store is a dealer in them now too. Carrying even the biggest ones they make.

[patrick conroy]

C'mon - I think that lil' soldering iron that goes cold immediately is pretty neat! :)

[Dave Hall]

something.

Well, if we are going to talk about the LG ladder I would appreciate any comments from LG ladder owners who have had the opportunity (and taken the time) to look at the Gorilla ladder sold by Home Depot. It seems quite good and is much less expensive, but if the LG is a lot better then I will have to think twice about purchasing a Gorilla ladder.

Thanks...and yeah, I have seen a few comments on a Google search but I haven't seen a serious comparison made by a LG ladder owner.

Dave Hall

[Unisaw A100]

I just figured he was referring to Upscale.

UA100, who also snipped away the referred to material...