Good point, write them and get your friends, wreckers and Normites to write them and maybe they will start to offer them this way.
LRod:
Well, I understand your frustration. I am not sure if DIY will get that many viewers who will understand what's missing. They might just watch the "pretty pictures" and order the plans later. The deal that Morash (and doesn't Time Warner own NYW?, I know they own TOH) made is his deal to make. I also presume that Norm got a cut as well.
This makes it all important that you continue to support your ONLY non-commerical broadcasting - PBS. I for one, will continue with watching DIY to see how they are showing the episodes and to will make a better contribution to my local PBS station next pledge break (which I expect almost any minute now!).
MJ Wallace
Huge snippage:
Maybe it's not all bad. Here is something I'm looking forward to.
I miscalculated the percentage of 1:5, think it was 1 in 5. It's actually 1 in 6. Anyway, the specific percentage doesn't matter--we're certainly in agreement that it's gotten larger.
My principal point, however poorly stated, was that there never has been a 1:1 (50%) ratio of content to commercials in regular programming, and I still maintain that's correct.
Which, unless you're a Neilsen family, is irrelevant because your viewership means nothing at all. They don't know what you're watching, so whether or not you watch it doesn't matter.
Think of how much extra time he'd have had if they didn't make him recap what he did 90 seconds before every time they came back from a commercial?
If that's true, no one would buy ads.
MJ Wallace
I don't know how Dean Johnson missed her...
Considering the length of the commercial break and the age of most viewers, that recap may be necessary.
I would agree, unless you consider product placement to be part of the commercial. I understand they are using "green-screen" objects in some shows that can have different advertisements/images appear on them, depending on who is funding the show. (Entirely possible, although i don't know if i'm remembering a "this is possible" or a "this is being done")
Might be possible for boxes, cans, or soda bottles, but for many products the size and shape of the container are part of the branding--those are difficult to green-screen.
Saw this in reverse for an ad for an ISP the other day--numerous laptops ran across the screen, all with the manufacturers' logos carefully blanked.
flip+@andrew.SeeEmmYou.EeeDeeYou wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@unix33.andrew.cmu.edu:
In a larger scale example, the Tribune Company did this to Wrigley Field. They put an ugly green board up behind home plate so during the weekend games the big broadcasting networks could sell ads on it.
Puckdropper
You are correct. I doubt that even the cat, who appears to watch most of the TV around here, would put up with that.
I wasn't sure just how much increase there was, or what the ratio of content to ads there was these days, until your post.
I just knew there was indeed an increase. Actually, I would have sworn it was bit higher than answer.com indicates(whose authority is unsubstantiated in any case), but certainly not 50:50.
People buy ads based on what the Neilsen families are watching, and by extension, what that indicates everyone else is watching. They don't know what non-Neilsen families are watching, hence your actual viewership doesn't matter, they only care about their statistics.
Depends on what you mean. They've been putting in ads in sporting events like that for years, especially football games and racing where they have big areas of wall to stick local and regional ads, depending on where it's being broadcast. It would be much more difficult on a show like NYW to insert tools or something, although they could put in ads on the walls of Norm's workshop pretty easily, I would think.
When talking about statistcs such as the Nielsens and others it should be kept in mind that FIGURES DON'T LIE, BUT LIARS FIGURE Joe G
swingman wrote:
Remember that other statistics besides Neilsen are now available as cross-checks. Your cable company, Tivo, satellite provider, or other provider all have the ability to gather statistics on what is being watched, and with Tivo, even the number of times it is being rewound and watched. You can bet those statistics are also used to factor advertising charges.
Remember, as far as broadcasters are concerned, TV programs are *not* the product. Viewers are the product.
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My wife turns the set on for Oprah and the news ... and that's two more programs than I will turn it on for.
This week Oprah is traveling across country in a car. I've seen several scenes as I walked through the living room. SHe's got a bit of a potty mouth on her.
I think I like Martha Stewart better. At least she keeps her cussing off camera.
Bill
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