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On 10/19/2011 9:17 AM, J. Clarke wrote:

rights vs. government powers.
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snipped-for-privacy@comcast.net says...

You plainly do not understand the rulings that you claim support your argument. And you're getting boring.
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:16:41 -0600, Just Wondering wrote:

Sigh. I know it's a waste of time, but none of your out of context quotes were a ruling on an issue, but comments indicating the process by which the judge(s) reached a decision. As such they do not establish a right or even a law.
Another poster pointed out the same thing to you, but you refuse to accept it.
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snipped-for-privacy@comcast.net says...

No, the government was castrating, hysterectomizing, vasectomizing, or tubally ligating them.

The Supreme Court has consistently ruled that one has a right to decide not to procreate under most circumstances, but it has not consistently ruled that one has a right to procreate.

If it applied equally to everyone then based on the cases you cited, yes, it very likely would.
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snipped-for-privacy@comcast.net says...

They are? Care to tell us under what article this is covered?
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"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
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On 10/15/2011 9:54 PM, J. Clarke wrote:

Constitution. The articles of the Constitution don't deal with individual rights; they outline powers the states granted to the federal government. The Bill of Rights does enumerate certain rights, but it does not grant them; fundamental individual rights exist independent of any government grant, and cannot be either created or destroyed by government. The Supreme Court has stated this repeatedly in dozens of cases. Just a few dealing specifically with the right to procreate include: Skinner v. Oklahoma, 316 U.S. 535 (1942) Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479 (1965) Eisenstadt v. Baird, 405 U.S. 438 (1972) Carey v. Population Services Int'l, 431 U.S. 678 (1977)
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Leon wrote:

That gets more difficult for things like utilities and national defense. Would you care to see the Smithsonian Institution shut down because it couldn't "make it" based on the dollars it gets from admission? I'm just talking...I know where you are coming from (too).
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So each pays $1/year to keep the SI's doors open. There is a point to libraries.
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On 10/13/2011 8:11 PM, Bill wrote:

You raise the rates of admission. Run it like a business. Or let it be run by donations. When the government is involved with money issues nothing is efficient. I think it would be prudent to say that every aspect of government spending could be trimmed back with no loss in services if you cut the dead weight and have effecient management.
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Leon wrote:

Me doing woodworking is not efficient. That doesn't mean I shouldn't try to do it. From what I see, the most extreme form of capitalism, like that which reaches into game theory and gambling by FDIC-insured banks, is not a pretty thing. I'm willing to give up some efficiency in exchange for some soul. I'm not for government that pushes its own lottery tickets either. I like many things which are difficult to put a dollar figure on, like fish, trees and clean air.
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On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:48:28 -0700, Larry Jaques

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On 10/12/2011 12:05 PM, snipped-for-privacy@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:

There are exceptions to this answer but the poor buy more by earning more. The poor will remain poor as long as they are given things that they did not earn. The poor have no business trying to keep up with the Jones. For those that don't know how to earn and are capable, they need to learn how.
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wrote:

What about the poor who are already working, supporting 6 kids, themselves, and their 3 parents?

ACK!
-- The ultimate result of shielding men from folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer
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On 10/13/2011 4:39 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

Previously I mentioned that this would have to take effect over a period of years, many years. It would be a direction to steer towards instead of the direction we are headed now. The government is not going to change its spending habits on it's own. It is going to take the full attention of all the citizens to get it to change. Our out of control government spending and rewards program for not producing is our economic problem. If every one is paying taxes every one will be interested in what the government does with those dollars. But when basically half of the voters pay no fed income taxes they think the government is going a good job.

It's the horrible truth. There will always be poor people and they will grow in numbers as long as we reward them for not being productive.
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The world is smaller now. Steve will be missed!!
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I was an Apple employee after he left the company and left before he came back. I knew a lot of people who worked directly for him and/or had some "face time" with him. He was hard on his troops, but hard on himself as well. He understood technology better than most and he'll be missed.
Looking back, what a career.
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wrote:

I knew a lot of people who worked directly for him and/or had some "face time" with him. He was hard on his troops, but hard on himself as well. He understood technology better than most and he'll be missed.

Indeed. I think he made the proper decision. (see sig)
-- The most decisive actions of our life - I mean those that are most likely to decide the whole course of our future - are, more often than not, unconsidered. -- Andre Gide
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one of the last true visionaries. He will be missed.
Vic
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I'm keeping my iPhone at half-charge today.
Amazing how much one man could change our relationship with technology, making complex tools so easy to use.
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