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Show me where that inalienable right has been revoked. Citation, please.

Smoking is irresponsible, too. Carrying a credit card balance is irresponsible. People have the right to be irresponsible.

All? You obviously want to run everyone's life the way *you* think it should be run. That is the leftist's goal.

No it certainly is not. *YOU* don't get to decide what others may do.
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In my opinion is what I said. Legalese may decide otherwise.
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It is not an "opinion" that people do not have "rights", that the clearly do. Perhaps you need to bone up on the English language?
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:58:05 -0600, Just Wondering wrote:

Oh? Where in the constitution?
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On 10/15/2011 12:30 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:

Actually, the concept precedes the Constituion, in a little document called the Declaration of Independence:
"Life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness ... " embodied therein by any reasonable determination.
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On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:30:15 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard

You need a civics lesson. The Constitution does not enumerate individual rights, rather limits government's power.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
If it's *NOT* there, it's the people's.

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On 10/15/2011 11:30 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:

The Constitution enumerates and limits government power, not individual rights. That's what the Bill of Rights says, specifically the 9th and 10th Amendments. Construing the Bill of Rights, the Supremes have repeatedly held that procreation is a fundamental right.
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snipped-for-privacy@comcast.net says...

You have some cases to cite?
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On 10/15/2011 9:54 PM, J. Clarke wrote:

Here's a very few, just to get you started. Skinner v. Oklahoma, 316 U.S. 535 (1942) Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479 (1965) Eisenstadt v. Baird, 405 U.S. 438 (1972) Carey v. Population Services Int'l, 431 U.S. 678 (1977)
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 03:50:08 -0600, Just Wondering wrote:

I looked those up. They all were primarily about the right to contraception.
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On 10/17/2011 10:30 AM, Larry Blanchard wrote:

From Eisenstadt, at pg. 453:
"If the right of privacy means anything, it is the right of the individual, married or single, to be free from unwarranted government intrusion into matters so fundamentally affecting a person as the decision whether to bear or beget a child."
From Carey, at pg. 687:
"The teaching of Griswold is that the Constitution protects individual decisions in matters of childbearing from unjustified intrusion by the state."
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snipped-for-privacy@comcast.net says...

Neither of those is a ruling by the court, those are statements made in explaining their reasoning.
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On 10/17/2011 7:09 PM, J. Clarke wrote:

Do you seriously think no one has a right to make individual decisions in matters of procreation?
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:40:33 -0600, Just Wondering wrote:

I think training, testing, and licensing for prospective parents could well be an improvement - but it'll never happen.
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:31:35 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard

Think about who would be doing the licensing.
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On 10/18/2011 5:31 PM, Larry Blanchard wrote:

That wasn't my question.
Do you seriously think no one has a right to make individual decisions in matters of procreation?
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snipped-for-privacy@comcast.net says...

The Supreme Court seems to think that individuals can decide to not procreate, and the government can in certain circumstances decide for individuals that they may not procreate. So one is clearly entitled to make individual decisions in the matter of not procreating. There is no reason to believe that one is equally entitled the other way.
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On 10/19/2011 9:23 AM, J. Clarke wrote:

Please provide an example.
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On 10/19/2011 12:52 PM, Just Wondering wrote:

I believe that was when the government was introducing a birth control under the surface of the skin. I do not recall the circumstances but IIRC it was for incarcerated women.
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On 10/19/2011 2:57 PM, Leon wrote:

1. Is there any evidence of this, or are you just repeating gossip? 2. If it happened, it would be completely irrelevant to the proposition that people have a right to make decisions about procreation. At most, it would show that someone in some prison system violated someone's constitutional right.
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