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Children made up 45 percent of people receiving food stamps, according to the most recent annual report issued by the USDA in November 2012. An additional 9 percent were over age 60.
----------- Contrary to "Entitlement Society" Rhetoric, Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households
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On 2/14/2015 12:14 AM, Baxter wrote:

Children don't receive food stamps (EBT cards), it's their parents who receive them, and unless those parents are truly disabled they can work for their kids' supper. I'm over 60 myself, I don't see a problem with people working at least until age 65.
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On 2/14/2015 5:37 AM, Just Wondering wrote:

Still working at 69, I agree with you. I also know at least 6 twenty-somethings sucking up my tax dollars in the form of an EBT card
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Ditto (62). I plan on working for at least another four, if not eight years (I'll decide when the bridge crosses).
Just be glad those six aren't living in your basement, and off your medical insurance.
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On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 11:15:01 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@attt.bizz wrote:

One of them was for about three months. She is a relative with few marketable skills. Fortunately, gone now and I think still getting government freebies like free healthcare.
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School lunches are considered to be part of the "food stamps" program.
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On 2/14/2015 3:50 PM, Baxter wrote:

Only by you.
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On 02/14/2015 12:14 AM, Baxter wrote:

Including Social Security and Medicare as "entitlements" greatly skews the data that is the subject of this thread.
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On 2/14/2015 8:25 AM, Doug Winterburn wrote:

Personally I do not considered Social Security Insurance an entitlement program. (At least that is the way it was sold to the American people until the democrats siphoned it off to eliminate poverty. Just for the record Poverty is a higher percentage of the population today than it was when they started "fighting it")
For over 50 years the government has been taking a large percent of my income ON THE PROMISE they would provide income for my retirement
If that money had been modestly invested in the stock market which on the average has been growing at a rate of 10% per year, I would be a multi millionaire to day. The Social Security Insurance program in my opinion was a very poor investment.
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On 2/14/2015 7:40 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:

A Ponzi scheme, by any definition of the term.
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On 2/14/2015 8:46 AM, Swingman wrote:

Very true, but. . . SS does guarantee some income for the masses. Without it, we'd have a lot of poor older people too old to work with NO savings or investment at all. Our politicians have bastardized it over the years making it a give-away program for a lot of people, not just the retired.
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Then, there is Chile. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pensions_in_Chile
The problem with the above is that the fed would just use it as another slush fund and political tool.
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By your definition, ALL insurance is a "Ponzi scheme".
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On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 22:51:49 +0000 (UTC), Baxter

Of course not. That's a wicked case of moral equivalence, you have there.
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snipped-for-privacy@attt.bizz wrote in

SS is set up and works exactly the same as private insurance. Charges of "ponzi scheme" have been around almost since it's inception and are not nor have they ever been true. "Ponzi scheme" is propaganda put out by the enemies of SS - mostly people that want to get their hands on that pool of money.
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On 02/15/2015 12:06 AM, Baxter wrote:

Here's a couple of articles from that ultra right wing, greedy organization, PBS.
<http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/americas-ponzi-scheme-why-social-security-needs-to-retire/ <http://www.pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/obama-trying-cut-social-security/
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Yes, PBS *does* give voice to right-wing and nutcases.

----------- PolitiFact has rated several claims about whether Social Security is a Ponzi scheme including two we rated False by Perry leading up to the 2012 presidential election.
We asked Curbelo?s campaign spokesman for evidence showing the programs are Ponzi schemes.
Wadi Gaitan emailed us a statement that Curbelo was using "a figure of speech" and wants to preserve the programs for current and future generations. He provided no evidence that the programs are Ponzi schemes.
But first, what is a Ponzi scheme?
The term originates with Charles Ponzi, a Boston swindler who conned investors out of millions in 1920 by promising returns of up to 100 percent in 90 days on investments in foreign postal coupons. After first- round investors harvested those profits, others flocked to Ponzi, unaware his "profits" consisted of money paid in by other investors.
That strategy is unsustainable.
In contrast, Social Security is more like a "pay-as-you-go" system transferring payroll tax payments by workers to retirees. A 2009 Social Security Administration online post stated: "The American Social Security system has been in continuous successful operation since 1935. Charles Ponzi's scheme lasted barely 200 days."
Mitchell Zuckoff, a Boston University journalism professor who has written a book on Ponzi, noted three critical dissimilarities between Social Security and a Ponzi scheme. We will summarize Zuckoff?s comments from an earlier fact-check:
* "First, in the case of Social Security, no one is being misled," Zuckoff wrote in a January 2009 article in Fortune. "Social Security is exactly what it claims to be: A mandatory transfer payment system under which current workers are taxed on their incomes to pay benefits, with no promises of huge returns."
* Second, he wrote, "A Ponzi scheme is unsustainable because the number of potential investors is eventually exhausted." While Social Security faces a huge burden due to retiring Baby Boomers, it can be and has been tweaked, and "the government could change benefit formulas or take other steps, like increasing taxes, to keep the system from failing."
* Third, Zuckoff wrote, "Social Security is morally the polar opposite of a Ponzi scheme. ... At the height of the Great Depression, our society (see 'Social') resolved to create a safety net (see 'Security') in the form of a social insurance policy that would pay modest benefits to retirees, the disabled and the survivors of deceased workers. By design, that means a certain amount of wealth transfer, with richer workers subsidizing poorer ones. That might rankle, but it's not fraud."
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Or, of course, stick your fingers in your ears, sing "la la la" at the top of your voice, and ignore the actual facts.
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On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:46:25 +0000 (UTC), Baxter

If not smart, at least you're funny!

Clueless.

You really are clueless.
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On 02/15/2015 12:46 PM, Baxter wrote:

OK, Bax.
Since you are up on all things SS, let's take one thing at a time.
Tell us what you know about the SS "trust" fund (and for that matter about the 150+ federal trust funds).
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All you have to do is google - and stop getting your information from FAUX NUZ and other right-wing sites that aim to kill SS.
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/news/press/factsheets/WhatAreTheTrust.htm
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