KENDALL SEYBERT (in dt1mf.5905$Yh2.5326@trndny01) said:
| Amen, guys; there were once giants on the earth, and they were of
| that generation. My father was drafted in '39 and was in it until
| '45; those men and women literally did the impossible. I wonder if
| our present generation would have the fortitude....
I don't think I'd be taking anything away from the vets of any
previous generation if I said that there are still those kinds of
It's just that as we've gotten older, those giants have come to look
more and more like our kids.
The world has changed - idealism, determination, and courage have not.
DeSoto, Iowa USA
Uh... Tree Huggers? No to be difficult Leon, but what on earth do
environmentalists have to do with war?! <g>
If anything, the "Tree Huggers" have been amazingly quiet about the
405 tons of depleted uranium projectiles we have sprayed on Iraq and
Serbia/Kosovo/ Yugoslavia over the past 15 years. Having a half-life
of about 4.5 million years, the use of DU rounds has resulted in a
minimum 400% increase in bizarre birth defects in Iraqi civilians, and
an estimated 65% rate of birth defects among exposed Gulf War
Veterans. Even the Pentagon's director of the DU project, Doug Rokke,
resigned over the use of DU as a military weapon, stating that its use
was a crime against humanity. This is one reason some Iraqis are so
pissed off, the other being that many are fanatical lunatics - Gee, I
wonder why? We've dumped about 395 tons of this stuff on Iraq alone.
This doesn't, however, detract from the bravery and determination of
those who do the job they are ordered to perform - when they are
allowed, and equipped, to do it. The Bureaucracy remains the problem.
Depleted uranium (DU) or uranium-238 is made from uranium hexaflouride
which is the non-fissionable by-product of the uranium enrichment
process used to obtain uranium-235 for reactor fuel and nuclear bombs.
Depleted Uranium projectiles are used as tank and bunker piercing
rounds due to their super-high density and ability to cut through
armoured objects like warmed butter..
So, shoot the messenger...
The Iraqi's are pissed off over DU? At who?
No, Lil' Greggie is.
Neat facts. None of which even have any test results to prove them except
405 tons....You cite several countries and conflicts, mostly of the Clinton
era. 395 tons in Iraq...When? Before or after 1993? Or is this just another
Google disinformation instance. Cite your sources and then folks can judge
the validity of the research.
Why didn't we see an increase in those health effects in those other
countries that you stated?
Exactly what was stated as fact that you responded to. Rokke? Has anyone
looked into his agenda? How long has DU actually been deployed and by whom?
Some of you little happy hearts are going to be sadly disappointed in the
near future of this country. The fact that many are getting sick of hearing
about your media mixing the truth all the time. All your hand wringing is
coming back to haunt you. Your statements are in writing.
For someone like you to extole the bravery and determination of those that
do the job is laughable. You put conditions of allowed and equipped. You, I
hope are referring to previous administrations that removed their ability to
No, you are not.
You are just another little pussy that can't handle the fact that again , we
as the United States of America, need to sacrifice American lives to protect
the future of the world for those that seek freedom.
Piss on you!
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 01:48:17 -0800, Schuster wrote:
I'm already disappointed. Mostly at folks like you. If King Geoge,
Ayatollah Ashcroft, and Reichsfuhrer Rumsfeldt get their way, you'll be in
heaven and the rest of us will be in concentration camps.
Yes, I'm resorting to hyperbole. That appears to be your favorite
There's absolutely no doubt in my mind, but you'll have to rebuild the
respect for the men and women in the leadership positions first.
Now they're looking at as just a bunch of self-serving money-grabbing
corporation-sucking bastards..... which they are.
I think war should be left to the military, not preppy sons of oil
How the hell can you get fire in your belly when the role-models on top
have only worn a uniform to play-act for a photo-op? Or, for that
matter, sold out to a ketchup heiress?
Kids are smarter than that these days, they see right through the
bullshit. It makes the difference between following an order because you
have to and following an order because you want to.
I lost family on that day. You may have too. It's a shame they had to die to
wake up FDR to the realities of the world.
Yet you fail to see the similarities...
Damned shame that your attitude, if continually prevelant, will kill many
more American servicemen.
Not to mention the fact that more died on 9/11/01 than died on 12/7/41.
Many fine responses. And, not to put too fine a point on it, but
shouldn't it be "Least we forget". Seems to me 'least we not forget'
is a double negative saying we should forget. Kind of like 'I ain't
Thats it. the original doesn't make any sense at all. "Lest we forget"
translated into colloquial English is simply "So that we don't forget".
In Australia there are service men and women's clubs in almost every town
called RSLs Every evening in every one the lights are dimmed and these words
are heard over the loudspeaker.
At the going down of the sun
And in the morning
We shall remember them
Lest we forget.
Everyone stands and faces the eternal flame in silence, all activity stops
out of respect to the fallen.
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