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On 3/22/2015 4:32 PM, woodchucker wrote:

It is shocking that the garbage men are not paid like athletes. They absolutely work as hard for their pay... Those guys have to be some of the most physically fit workers in the country as a whole. At least the ones that actually lift and empty the can by themselves. And run to the next house. I am amazed the pace our collectors keep up. About as fast as I walk, I walk an average of 4mph, and grab the garbage cans too.
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On 3/22/15 4:54 PM, Leon wrote:

Yet, they could train orangutans to do that job in a month and they'd work for whatever they picked out of the cans to eat.
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On 3/22/2015 4:56 PM, -MIKE- wrote:

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wrote:

Our garbage man makes about 30 K a year, now mind you it is Southern Illinois.
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On 3/22/2015 5:54 PM, Leon wrote:

They work hard, but lets not forget, they are totally unskilled labor, and there are plenty of people that can fill those jobs.
Because we have kids that think they're too cool for school. I wish that vocational training existed in Middle or Highschool (all) not some.
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woodchucker wrote:

aren't measuring vocational skills. Put welding on the list, and they wood have welding at every school--and in short order!
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On 3/22/2015 7:45 PM, Bill wrote:

away.
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On 3/22/2015 7:31 PM, woodchucker wrote:

that might be debatable. ;~) they do have to train to swinging the can up in to the truck with out hurting themselves. Much like guy on the assembly line mounting tires/wheel assemblies and attaching lug nuts. I think an assembly line worker would might be easier to replace, you have to actually build up your physical strength and stamina to run along side a garbage truck all day and in all kinds of weather and tossing trash into the back of the trucks. Our trash cans are 75 gallon sized, provided by the waste collection company, and they are often full.

as cool as going to college and failing.
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On 03/23/2015 08:51 AM, Leon wrote:

collect the trash without ever getting out of the truck. The recycle guys do run down the street, but the recycle boxes are relatively small.
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On 3/23/2015 11:20 AM, Doug Winterburn wrote:

with the articulating can grabber. Out here, 12 miles further west, the collectors do it the old school way, brute strength, with the cans that are normally used with the before mentioned method of collection.
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On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 09:20:31 -0700, Doug Winterburn

Our recycle people use the same equipment and the same cans (green rather than black). Well, we don't recycle but if we did...
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On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 11:51:31 AM UTC-4, Leon wrote:
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Don't your trucks have "automatic lifters"?
Our G-men (and women) roll the containers to the side of the truck, hook 'e m up and pull a lever.
Granted, they do have to lift the non-containerized debris, but WM has rule s regarding what we can put out as normal trash vs. what we need to call in . For large items, like furniture and appliances, they often send a truck w ith a crane.
That said, I grew up in NYC. I'm pretty sure that back then the G men were indeed highly skilled technicians, extensively trained in 3 aspects:
1 - Smashing brand new galvanized cans on the edge of the truck in precisel y the correct manner such that the lid will never, ever fit securely again .
2a - Shifting each homeowner's cans at least 3 houses to the left or right so that you had to go searching for your cans. In addition, one can will h ave been left 2-3 houses to the right, the other 2-3 houses to the left. 2b - In all cases, the non-fitting lid will not be shifted to same location as the can itself.
3 - Placing cans on the sidewalk in such a manner that they will prevent pe destrians from walking in a straight line. Some cans will be placed standin g on the street side of the sidewalk, other will be placed lying down on th e right, still others will left dead center.
The exception to Rule #3 is that all cans will be left standing up on rainy days so as to collect as much water as possible.
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On 3/23/2015 12:37 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:

Not where I live now. Before the "special container" was lifted with an articulating arm to the top of the truck and dumped.

Ours are this way now but only use the lifter if they absolutely cannot lift the can.

Apparently all 3 steps you mention above is a "union" approved method. I recall those days in Texas. ;~) Today the waste collection provides their, almost double sized, wheeled collection cans and they are much more gentle with them.
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On 3/22/2015 3:36 PM, Bill wrote:

Good question but most all laborers deal with this every day. If your job requires physical activity it is likely going to have some risk. I think a roofer probably has one of the most dangerous job.
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On 3/22/2015 3:36 PM, Bill wrote:

Good question but most all laborers deal with this every day. If your job requires physical activity it is likely going to have some risk. I think a roofer probably has one of the most dangerous job.
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wrote:

Perhaps not but the bread line isn't much fun, either. You have no right to a cushy job. In fact, you have no right to a job at all. That's where the left's policies lead.

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On 3/22/15 6:02 PM, snipped-for-privacy@zzz.com wrote:

Exactly. If fun had anything at all to do with the equation, then Athletes DO deserve to make millions. :-)
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wrote:

Then so do I! :-(
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On 3/22/2015 7:33 PM, -MIKE- wrote:

And my point in all of this is that our society has taught us to believe that fun is an absolute in all economic equations. What if we changed that equation to leave out fun and put in happy.
We have fun as a society spending trillions on sports and entertainment. If we spent that money on what makes us happy we would all be better off. IMHO
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On 3/22/2015 4:36 PM, Bill wrote:

No, so I got an education and went in a different direction, though in manufacturing. Kwityerbitchin and do the same if you don't like it.
You deserve a safe working place and a fair wage for the work you do. Nothing more.
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