RE: Cudos to Apex Tool Group

There are problems there too. You have homeowners with no kids that don't see the benefit of having a well educated society.

The other problem is the value received. The US spends more per pupil for education than any other country, yet we are ranked about low for education. Why is that?

Pathetic showing here for science and math.

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Here we are ranked #20

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Here we are No. 14

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Ed Pawlowski
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There are many great baby sitters and caretakers, but there are some that operate as a warehouse for kids.

Can't generalize because I've seen a couple of situation where the sitter did a better job than the parents, but the opposite also happens.

IMO, the reason why the kids are farmed out makes a lot of difference. If mom is working because dad has a modest paying job and it is tough getting by, I have no problem with that.

The ones that irk me is the parent that farms out child rearing so mom can work and buy a boat or a new Volvo instead of a Chevy.

Disclaimer: My wife did not work until the kids were in high school and then it was only part time for a few months.

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Ed Pawlowski

Good point.

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Max

I don't believe the government needs more money to shift what it has towards education. And for that matter the government in the Houston area of the woods does not often ask for tax rate changes, they simply over value the value of your home to get more revenue.

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Leon

Inappropriately spending of that money. And they probably allow way too much restriction to helping the brighter students so that Johnny does not feel left behind. Hand that boy a trophy. If we allowed our teachers to teach, what they probably do best, instead of helping students memorize the progress tests and put an end to BS behavior which they are afraid to correct or not allowed to control, it would be a good start.

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Leon

It's nice to know that I am not the only one here that thinks this way and just to be clear, I am not a liberal.

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Leon

Mike I think we both are thinking the same, I'm obliviously not stating my view quite how I want it to be received, not being highly educated. ;~)

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Leon

When I lived in Houston our garbage collection was the one man set up with the articulating can grabber. Out here, 12 miles further west, the collectors do it the old school way, brute strength, with the cans that are normally used with the before mentioned method of collection.

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Leon

Not where I live now. Before the "special container" was lifted with an articulating arm to the top of the truck and dumped.

Ours are this way now but only use the lifter if they absolutely cannot lift the can.

Apparently all 3 steps you mention above is a "union" approved method. I recall those days in Texas. ;~) Today the waste collection provides their, almost double sized, wheeled collection cans and they are much more gentle with them.

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Leon

Well, that's a different argument than "worth". You don't think a baseball player should make $50M. Fine but you're not paying him and the person who is signing the payroll disagrees.

More like "ignorance is useful" scenario.

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krw

(Not believing it)

Consider this, though. The entertainer/game player is making more money for is boss every year. The average educator is *not* teaching.

Yes. Recent history shows that paying teachers more doesn't produce anything but more debt and dumber students.

That's the beauty. You can choose to spend your money on anything you want. Well, after the socialistic government takes it's hand out of your wallet.

Some professions are *worth* more than others.

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krw

Six figures isn't unusual, with retirement packages worth 80-100% of the highest year salary.

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krw

It's not difficult to quantify at all. Hollywood knows what star power is worth. They have a track record to go by (which is also why male actors are paid significantly more than female).

Certainly not because as you suggest, no one will spend the $20-$30 to go see Bob Westwood. They *will* fork over to see Dirty Harry say "So do ya' punk?!".

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krw

Of course it is. Society would be a whole lot *better* if everyone optimized their situation rather than taking from another.

It's called "choice".

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krw

That is *NOT* why it's screwed up. It's screwed up because people won't take care of their own. Forget what the other guy makes. It's irrelevant.

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krw

Which is more important, water or air? IOW, it's a false choice.

Huh? Someone is feeding them.

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krw

Haven't seen that. The boss is a gringo.

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krw

Our recycle people use the same equipment and the same cans (green rather than black). Well, we don't recycle but if we did...

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krw

If you put 2 stiches on a wound that requires plastic surgery to correct you still have a severe problem. Basically if you increase pay to the educational system but fall far short of what is needed it is a waste of money.

And what reason do you think that the the government has turned more socialistic? Could it be ill educated voters? If our population was smarter it would have a smaller government if it is not too late now.

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Leon

We may not be signing the check for the salary, but in many cases we signed the check for the publicly funded stadium. I wonder what the salaries (and /or ticket prices) would look like if the owners had to pay for their own p lay houses.

Here is a summary of the book Field of Schemes, stolen w/o permission from:

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"Field of Schemes is a play-by-play account of how the drive for new sports stadiums and arenas drains $2 billion a year from public treasuries for th e sake of private profit. While the millionaires who own sports franchises have seen the value of their assets soar under this scheme, taxpayers, urba n residents, and sports fans have all come out losers, forced to pay both h igher taxes and higher ticket prices for seats that, thanks to the layers o f luxury seating that typify new stadiums, usually offer a worse view of th e action."

True, fans do not have to go to the games...it's their choice to pay the hi gher prices. I spoke with my wallet many years ago and relinquished my seas on tickets to an NFL team when the price got out of hand. I'm not sure that they noticed.

We should also keep in mind the huge tax breaks that the leagues receive. A s many of you know, the NFL is a 501(c)(6) organization (read: non-profit). Not the teams themselves, but the league.

Yes, I know that there are "offsets" to the tax breaks in increased revenue s from all the different businesses that make money when there's a game in town and that successful businesses contribute to the overall well being of an area. Still, I'll bet that the owners (and the leagues) make out better than the public when all the numbers are in.

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DerbyDad03

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