RE: Cudos to Apex Tool Group

Kind'a sounds like your contractor went to HD to buy the materials and hired several guys at the parking lot to to the job.

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Leon
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Agreed but US made stuff (appliances, anyway) do exist. It's usually the people who bitch the most about exporting jobs are 1) the ones buying foreign products when there is a US made alternative and 2) vote for those who are causing companies to move jobs outside the US.

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krw

Perhaps not but the bread line isn't much fun, either. You have no right to a cushy job. In fact, you have no right to a job at all. That's where the left's policies lead.

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krw

I'd bet those roofers have safety equipment that goes unused because it slows them down.

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krw

Why do *you* believe that you know more about what other's work is worth than those who are paying them? No one is forcing you to watch sports and you can surely pay double what the contractor asks next time you have your house roofed.

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krw

I don't think so, at all. There are only a handful of people with the skills those entertainers have. *MANY* people are willing to pay to see them do their thing. OTOH, there are *MANY* health care workers and educators and many people who have to pay their salary. In the end, people (and things) are worth exactly what someone is willing to pay (for) them.

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krw

Well that is some what of a self centered way to look at things. What about our poor northern states having to deal with the Canadians coming over here for jobs. LOL JUST KIDDING!

But seriously our poor USA actors are in earnest being replaced by their Canadian counter parts. It is surprising how many of today's TV shows pretty much have an all Canadian cast. Take Rookie Blue for example. Scroll down to the cast names and click on the name beside the picture.

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Reply to
Leon

If the actor makes the producers $500,000,000, I'd say he was worth every penny of it.

No, people pay for what *THEY* value. No more.

Reply to
krw

And you have just described how our society works and why it is where it is at today as far as the economy goes.

Reply to
Leon

Every one is entitled to an opinion. But there is a difference between worth and what some one is paid.

Reply to
Leon

To tell you the truth I think most roofers in Texas would not recognize safety equipment. I think they do however think of a ladder as a safety item for getting down off of a roof. And they sit on big foam rubber blocks to keep from being burned by the scorching hot shingles.

Reply to
Leon

No, I really haven't. In my world there would be no minimum wage, unions, or about 99% of the government regulations.

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Reply to
krw

Not at all. If someone wasn't worth what they were paid, the transaction wouldn't happen. That's the definition of worth.

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krw

I think they had one person who was in charge of the team, and that he really knew who was who, based upon previous experience. And evidently, if you weren't on time, you didn't work that day!

Reply to
Bill

It's the same here. I see the monkeys climbing all over 15:12 roofs, with no safety equipment. I'm sure it's in the truck, though (and the boss "thinks" it's being used).

Reply to
krw

And firefighters.... ;-)

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Max

That's a pretty good summary. The problem lies in the "want to do" part. I've known a lot of computer programmers who hate what they do but got into it because it paid well. And since there are so few good ones to go around, they get away with it.

As an aside, I started in the late '50s. Companies were trying to devise tests to find people they could train to do programming.Never did get a really good test, but the best they came up with was 3 questions:

  1. Do you like to do crossword puzzles?
  2. Do you like to take tests?
  3. Do you like to do jigsaw puzzles?

If you said no to all 3, they showed you the door. If you said yes to all 3 they offered you the corner office :-). It did weed out the ones who were hopeless, but wasn't as good at finding only the excellent ones. A lot of mediocre to just adequate passed the test.

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Larry Blanchard

Substitute anything that doesn't have any moral value to you for mousetrap in my example. Candy bar. Software app. Breast implant. Bald Eagle trap. :-)

You're putting your own moral value on services or things and saying some deserve more than others. You can't have that in a free market. You only get that in a utopia or socialism. And with socialism, you better hope whoever is setting that moral compass lines up with your ethics or you might be really screwed. :-)

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-MIKE-

Kinda sounds like you're familiar with the roofing business. :-)

Reply to
-MIKE-

They work hard, but lets not forget, they are totally unskilled labor, and there are plenty of people that can fill those jobs.

Because we have kids that think they're too cool for school. I wish that vocational training existed in Middle or Highschool (all) not some.

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woodchucker

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