I went to the store the other day and was asking for a good table
saw...not a cheapie, and yet not break my bank. The sales guy said
that Hitachi was a good "middle-of-the-road" table saw. In fact,
here's what he said was the ranking in terms of the "BEST" to the "NOT
4) Black & Decker
Is this accurate? What about Hitachi Routers and Table Saws... Yeah or
That is kind of a curious group of tools (where's Delta, Powermatic,
General, etc?) unless you were shopping at Sears. (Does Sears sell all
those brands? No one else would considering one is a Sears house brand.)
And, as someone else pointed out, Craftsman is sourced from a number of
different companies and could vary in this salesperson's rankings. From the
list, it looks like you are looking at portable, jobsite table saws???
(Skil, B&D, Bosch inclusion) One could make an argument that his list is at
least somewhat close, though Craftsman could appear almost anywhere in that
list, and I personally don't think that highly of DeWalt though all the
magazines that accept their advertising dollars always say they are
great...sometimes, even sources not accepting advertising dollars like them.
Although I am really not sure the OP is looking for a small
tabletaop/portable/ job site Table saw or not...BUT the list sure
makes me think he is...
For use in a home shop all the listed ones would be a waste of money
in my opinion.. Funny but when I think of Table Saws NONE of those
listed even come to mind....
I agree that what you say is a commonly accepted myth, but not true. B&D
aquired DeWalt and had the good sense not to merge the tool lines. B&D (who
used to make kick-ass tools) settled into the home use market while DeWalt
went after the trades. I know a lot of guys earning a living driving around
in a pickup full of yellow tools that get used hard every day and hold up
including the jobsite saw. I also have a friend who used to be a DeWalt
repairman and he said all you have to do is open up the tool and look inside
to tell its not B&D. Beauty is more than skin deep - or the color of
the dewalt handheld tool lineup started with exact identical except
color versions of B&D industrial line tools. they then bought up some
smaller quality tool makers and added their tools to the dewalt lineup-
elu was one. then they started designing some new stuff for the dewalt
I know at one point in time and for a specific product (think it was a
sander), the exact same item except for case color was available as "ELU",
"Quantum", or "DeWalt". At least they didn't slap the B&D name on it.
Let me guess - You were shopping at Lowes. I'll donate an extra dollar to my
favorite charity if I'm right, I know I am.
sam - That ranking may be correct depending on the saws model # and what you
want them for.
Do this, give us a price range and tell us its intended uses and we can make
some recomendations. We have all been there done that ad nausium. You get
what you pay for applies somewhat but not always. Sometimes in the better
tools there are huge jumps in price that get you little but for the guy that
that little difference is critical then its worth the jump in price. For
others its not.
Not very woodworking related but more reliability related. (I'm in the UK).
I've got quite a lot of Bosch power tools and always thought they were good
enough quality for the home/hobby user but a while back my Bosch hot air gun
died right in the middle of fitting one of the more sophisticated car
alarms. Lots of connections I was making by splicing the wires into the car
loom and protecting with heat shrink. Just made the shops in time to pick up
a cheap replacement.
Then recently a new Bosch angle grinder packed up on me after maybe around
half an hours intermittent use when I was grinding off a car wing. Again I
was lucky as I had an old grinder I was able to use.
Maybe just unlucky but my faith in Bosch is a bit shakey now.
Its a little unclear from your post but It seems that...
The question you asked was a bit flawed and the sales guy did you a
disservice by answering the question you asked rather than what you wanted
Many of the listed companys hav several models available. Some may be crap
some may be quite good; it depends on the model. This is very true of
There are 3 basic types (arguably 4) of table saws. It would be helpful if
you would let us know whether you are looking as benchtop/portables,
contractor saws, hybrids or cabinet saws. If you're not sure, your first
question should be "here's what I want to do, what class of machine should I
be looking at?"
Followed by: "what should I expect to pay for a certain class of saw?"
Then "what models will meet my needs in terms of quality, price, and
The good new is that you have come to the right place for good answers...
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Craftsman<BR>>> <BR>>> Is this accurate? What about Hitachi
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I did give the Swiffer a serious think before I sent my message off, but
there's so many companies branching out these days, I didn't bother to look
into it any further. I don't know what SCM stands for, but I have seen
prices on Griggio, Festool and Fein. They're all expensive as hell as far as
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