I disagree, and from a strong personal experience.
Both my grandfathers built and furnished their entire homes, from the
ground up, without a table saw.
I worked for a cabinetmaker in England who's family made cabinets and
furniture for 200 years without a table saw.
I personally made many of my own household furnishing for 30 years
before I ever owned a table saw, much less a decent one.
Historically, and after thousands of years of making wooden furniture,
you can cut wood many different ways, but there are only relatively few
time tested methods of JOINERY to this day.
The Domino, and similar devices, opened the door to a far more
universally applicable method of JOINERY for the average woodworker.
IOW, cut the best way you can, but master the JOINERY, or you're pissing
in the wind.
Nuff said ...
I think it's what you grew up with, what you're used to that's most
important. I grew up with a table saw as the main stay of a workshop.
It's what I know, what I was trained on and what I look for first when
I enter any wood shop.
Maybe a track saw can replace the tablesaw. When I saw what a Domino
could do, I knew right away that I wanted one. I just don't get the
same feeling when I see what a track saw could do. It's just not in
And, by saying that, I can understand how and why many here dismiss
the Domino as not being necessary. It's just not in them.
I saw a video on the Domino and I can appreciate why those in the the
"time is money" camp like them. It's not too complicated: If someone
will get enough use (or enjoyment) out of it, then they might buy one.
And the Amish only use hand power on the job site; however,
they do use tablesaws powered from stationary power in the shop.
Being a "Normite", give me a good table saw with a great fence,
a good dado set with a sacrifical fence and I'm happy.
Yeah, I have to agree with that. I really like my Domino, but for me a
tablesaw is the first, highest requirement. I got along a number of
years without a Domino, but a tablesaw has *always* been along for the
ride in one form or another.
Swingman made a good point about considering the bandsaw as the first
choice. I prefer having both, but for someone just starting to obtain
tools, they need to consider what they will be trying to do.
Unfortunately we all have to deal with some kind of budget.
I will be trying to be a craftsman.
I've read several of the books that Paul N. Hasluck co-wrote/edited. I
may build a chicken coop with Acanthus leaves and floral ornamentation
carved on the outside. I might pound some nails and string some wires,
and pluck the strings like a banjo or guitar...
Is one supposed to start with chickens or eggs? I may have to go with
Festool is the they don't like my shopvac...
Yes, I appreciate that. I was just having a little fun with more prior
post--but I meant the part about "craftsman".
With regard to what you said, concerning "joining" tools, I added a $21
(router) slot cutter to my Amazon wish list. That tool suggestion surely
saved me close to $200 for the time being. I think the tool is quite
adequate for "where I am at" too.
I can have a lot of fun with a pencil. I just can't cut a dado with one.
I guess there is Cheap, and then there is Super-Cheap! How do your 5/32"
biscuits fit into the 1/8" slots? I assume you're not using the 1/4"
That's the thing about woodworking (as pointed out in an interesting
post by HA* the other day). Everyone seems to approach it having
different background and experience. With regards to your question, I am
"here"! At least that's what the map says :)
Yes, if you have any old Tinker Toys lying around, you can make a fly
cutter bit! : ) That's the fact, Jack!
THAT was the other teensy little problem, and one of the main reasons
I bought the cheapie bisquicker a bit later. <vbg>
You can't get there from here.
Ah, the wonders of Tinker Toys. I preferred the Erector Set over
Lincoln Logs and Tinker Toys. Mom still remembers how impressed she
was when I built the moving robot back in '60. It makes a kid proud
to have a proud Mom, y'know?
It is easier to fool people than it is to
convince people that they have been fooled.
I see. You just wondered if you could make me make the same mistake! :)
Yes, I did Lincoln Logs, then the Erector Set. I built the "Windmill" a
few times..that was a "big project". My sister had a set of Tinker Toys
and neither of us liked them. I did have a set of mostly red/orange
plastic bricks that taught me a little about construction.. ; )
And 15 seconds later here they are:
in less time than it would take to dig them out of the attic.
Mom still remembers how impressed she
These came long before Lego. I read where some "purists" don't like it
when they are referred to as "Pre-Lego". Someone wrote an easy to find
product history (which I got sucked into). Turns out there were two
brothers named Hal and Sam... : )
Pay attention, Bubba ... _The Man_ himself speaks!!
Note the technique that Norm uses to mount face frames to casework using
biscuits and a slot cutter, as Lew suggested.
What he doesn't mention is that this technique allows you to adjust the
FF position, similar to what Leon was saying about making the Domino
mortises a little wider in length to gain some "wiggle room" in fitting
the parts together.
Disclaimer ... I do not use this method of attaching FF's, but do not
have a problem with recommending it if it suits your needs.
(I prefer the dado in the FF method because it allows me to concentrate
on building a very square FF, then assembling the cabinet casework on
top of that guaranteed square FF, insuring a SQUARE cabinet ... making
drawers, doors, and hardware much easier to install overall, and saving
me enough time to make a profit on the job)
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