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Bill, sometime ago you were looking for a table saw. Did you possibly have an interest in a jointer, also? Here's one near you. http://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.AdvSearchResults&myseller !83
Might be worth going inspect it. 3 days left for bidding and no one has bid on it, yet.
Sonny
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On 3/9/2012 11:05 AM, Sonny wrote:

Thank you very much C-Sonny! I found out that it is 3-phase. This rules it out for me, but perhaps someone else near Indianapolis is interested. It looks like a "fun" project at a potentially bargain price!
Bill
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Bill, a phase converter can be built for well under $100 if you have the spare parts, or a new one can be purchased for $160 from AmaGriz. (Amazon.com product link shortened)
-- Inside every older person is a younger person wondering WTF happened.
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How about this, then: Lot #12 Grizzly Tablesaw - http://irsauctions.com/index_lots.asp?pg ήtails&id802
Though it's 3 phase, this is an investment kind of purchase, not an off-the-shelf kind of purchase. 7 days to the end of the auction, so the bidding is likely to go up. Despite 3 Ph, it might be worth paying attention to if the bidding remains low. This saw is, essentially, fully rigged. Additional costs may be for a single ph motor and switch for single phase, if the motor is replaced, as opposed to getting a converter. Also, just because it has a 12" blade capacity, you wouldn't have to use a 12" blade. 10" works just fine.
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And there is obviously a Reserve on this saw, which hasn't been met, yet. I would suspect the reserve may be about $100, possibly as much as $200 (but I doubt this much). If the reserve would be a nearly $200, then the starting bid would have been higher.
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*Fully rigged: Even has a pencil sharpener on the extension table.
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Sonny wrote:

: )
That saw looks like a monster... 7.5 HP! For my purposes, an unnecessarily powerful TS seems like more of a liability than an asset. I definitely don't mind you pointing our these "bargains" however. The same site has a more modest/suitable 3HP Delta for $700, but it's in FL. This may be great news for a reader here in FL!
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"Bill" wrote in message
Sonny wrote:

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That saw looks like a monster... 7.5 HP! For my purposes, an unnecessarily powerful TS seems like more of a liability than an asset.
************************************ There is no such thing as too powerful of a table saw. Wait till you want to rip a thick piece of hard wood, or a piece of treated rough wood, or something. Also, when you cut dados.
You will want all the HP you can afford to buy. No way can it be a liability. That goes along with the idea that a dull tool (or low HP tool) is a dangerous tool. The opposite sharp and high HP comparison can also be made.
-- Jim in NC
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In a way, it is. That may be to your advantage, too, as Jim alludes to. I don't want to push you, but evaluate the whole scenario. You are, of course, your best judge. This kind of purchase would be an investment. Treat it as so, and not as a spur of the moment purchase. Do some research. You have a week to research it.
1) If this saw has potential for you and if convenient, go inspect the saw. Get the serial number and call Grizzly to get info on that particular saw. What replacement motors (5 hp?) can be used for the saw? 2) The footprint is just a tad larger than a Unisaw. 3) It comes with a mobile base. 4) If the motor would be replaced, as opposed to getting a converter, replace it with a 5 hp motor and use a 10" blade. 5) The top surface can double as a work bench, more so if an outfeed (fold down?) table is installed. 6) For moderate or less use, it'll last for 20 years (same as with that jointer). How often does a comparable saw become available, near you, for less than $600? *The bidding may likely reach $600, so that price may be beyond a hobbyist's reach, but stranger things have happened with these auctions. 7) If the total investment is/would possibly be reasonable for your means, it is certainly worth keeping an eye on for the next week.... same as with that jointer, maybe. 8) If you decide to bid, don't be an impulse bidder. Evaluate your means, relative to what needs to be done to make the saw a single phase unit.... do some pricing research, and bid only what you can comfortably afford. 9) If you like the saw and think you can reasonably make the modifications, bid only what you can afford. If you loose the bidding, nothing is lost. There is no penalty for not winning the bid.
I recall your initial mentioning you wanting a table saw. I sensed your excitement about getting one... reminded me of when I purchased my first Unisaw (used condition), for $800. I had second guessed myself for quite a while, after that purchase, even though I had researched my options for 6 months prior. Just don't be an impulse buyer, nor allow me to convince you to bid or buy.... with all of the above info. This saw looked like it may be potential for you, so I posted it.
That auction site has sales all over the country. Just have to check, periodically, to see when one is near you with a potential candidate for purchase... same as with that jointer auction site. It's part and party to doing the "research" as to what's available.
Sonny
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For me it would be a liability. I really don't want to try to persuade Connecticut Light and Power to run 3-phase to my basement.
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It's likely to get a good laugh, though. Rotary converters aren't all that expensive. FWIG, a 3HP unit can be had for $100. An old motor might even be free.
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It's three phase and may not work, per the question at the bottom of the page.
On 3/9/2012 11:05 AM, Sonny wrote:

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Kenefick wrote:

Yes, that info wasn't there before I phoned them and the actual owner of the tool! : )

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