Absolutely not. but not many CEO's have the labor union to do all of their bidding.
Usually 4. Sometimes 3, sometimes 7.
Unions fought for health coverage on
At like the Model T, its time too has passed.
No id does not and yes you are.
You ever stop to think why that is so, could it be because labor gets paid more than its production value?
And ummm... do ya think that
If the American worker building that gun would sell work for a wage that is equal to the skill level required you would see a lot of stuff drop in price.
If labor was a reasonable cost this would have never had to happen.
So you're saying that factory workers in China should be paid enough to live in a mansion with servants just to keep wages equal with the US? If not then what are you suggesting?
Until China has a competitive well established industrial base and is bringing in large amounts of foreign trade, wages will remain low. They were low in Japan after WWII, but as Japanese products found new markets and the Japanese economy grew, wages rose in proportion. So did prices. When that happened the Japanese started moving production to other countries where labor costs were lower. Now some of those countries have labor costs rivalling those of Japan and the US. Eventually China will get there too and production will move to such places as Rwanda.
If the American worker building that gun would sell work for the same price as a Chinese worker then that American worker would starve to death and cease to be productive.
I see. So to what do you attribute high labor costs in Japan? Are they also paying their workers more than their work is worth?
Simple fact, an hour of work has no _intrinsic_ value. It's value is what someone will pay for it. If the most anybody will pay for it is a dime then that's what it's worth. If they'll pay a million dollars then that's what it's worth. Where there is a high demand for workers wages will be high. Where there is a low demand for workers, wages will be low. China has a labor force 5 times that of the US and a GDP about half as large, so there is little demand for workers IN CHINA.
I think you need to study a little bit of basic economics.
So, you pay yourself what? About $6.00 per hour?
No, no, no, yes, no, maybe, no, too early to tell, and probably not.
And in the mid-1800s there were a lot of stories about the happy slaves on Southern plantations, too. Do you believe everything you see?
-- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt. And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
Hardly. The "culprit" is my desire to not spend what little money I have on things that don't last, combined with my reluctance to purchase the products of slave labor.
-- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
Nobody ever left footprints in the sands of time by sitting on his butt. And who wants to leave buttprints in the sands of time?
Sometimes. Yes.
Seldom more than $25.
Again CW, you hit the nail on the head.
You're right not to believe it. I build commercial aircraft here and know where this stuff comes from.
You should be leading by example. The average Chinese worker makes about 18 cents an hour. If you're charging more than 20 cents, you are part of the problem. I said $6.00 because that is about average minimum wage (try to live on it).
One of the biggest problems with China right now is that the Chinese government is artificially suppressing the value of their money in order to flood the world with Chinese products and force everyone else out of the market. This is not highly publicized but is well known to (our) government. They are threatening trade sanctions if this doesn't cease. The Chinese, of course, are claiming that the big, bad US is just being mean. Listen to Chinese radio to hear them whine about it. If their currency was allowed to inflate naturally (as it would), there would come a time when Chinese production would loose a lot of it's appeal to American importers, just as happened with Japan, and to a lesser extent, Taiwan.
Well I will agree that I am part of the problem.
anything i have ever seen that says made in china looked and felt zackaly ! [ zacaly like shit ! ] there may be some good stuff comming from china but blue collar joe aint sein it so far as i can tell. JMHO. But japan got that same rep some years back also and today they make some real nice stuff so change is likely to come for the better.
that may be but if everyone in this country gave back a % of their salery we would all would starve to death before the drop in prices could occur.
see above.
while i agree with this we all must take a good long look into the past when this country was coming of age in industry. I dont know how all this stuff is going to get fixed but i do know if it doesn't get fixed our children and grandchildren are gonna be i hurt status. I'm not sure ther is one simple fix but we don't seem to be doing anything!! THATS SCARY !! BTW i am posting pics of my newest and most specialist gloat over in ABPW. only took 5 or 6 weeks for someone to send a pic but i got it today on my b-day and I AN TICKLED PINK !!! take a look. be up in 5.
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Well, I wouldn't be at all surprised if there aren't at least subassemblies/parts being produced in PRC. While I don't know the current status, there was a big hub-bub made in Wichita over one of the agreements Boeing made w/ China on one of the major sales a couple of years ago that included transferral of some portion of the manufacturing to China. Where that agreement stands today I'm not certain, but if it isn't occurring yet, I expect it will before long...
The demise of Boeing from the apex to the current status as becoming simply an assembler of outside-produced parts is certainly a poster-child of the overall situation.
They made some real nice stuff years ago too but the American importers that went there were not looking to buy that. They wanted cheap that they could maximize profits with. If American importers were to buy quality Chinese made products, bring them here and expect to sell them at their typical huge markup, they wouldn't sell. If the buying public looks at two identical products, one is $100.00, the other is $95.00 and the $95.00 is made in China, which one are they going to buy? Everybody thinks all things made in china are junk. The only advantage to buying Chinese is buying junk. If you want quality, you might as well buy American, German, English, ect.
If I remember correctly several SE Asian countries did let their currencies float back in the 80s (Korea?Thailand?) rather than pegging them to the dollar. Result? Collapse. Not all that good of an idea for the country. Now, IF they (China) can develop to the point where there is some faith in its economy, a floating exchange could be good. This assumes that the government is willing to change. Perhaps this will be the case in another generation.
This is how rumors start, isn't it?! Your information is inaccurate an untrue. I know for a fact that the majority (80%+) of the parts are made in the U.S. and the ALL the Impulse and almost all air guns are still assembled in the U.S. Quality is top priority there and they test every little component that is in those guns. How many other brands can even come close to doing that?
By the way, didn't they just lower their prices last year?!! I don't think you can beat their quality and power with any other brand!
I also know that they make their nails here in the U.S. too. Check your labels boys & girls, I bet their one of the last ones that do.
I will never give up my Paslode tools and will always support them, becuase I trust their experience and performance!
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