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Well it has an engine that charges a battery and the battery runs the car. That helps really - maybe AAA can help you or another breakdown helper with a can of gas.
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On 7/30/2010 10:28 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

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Martin H. Eastburn wrote:

It has a lawn mower engine as a back up that runs on premium gas... For 42 grand, you would think they could put a solar panel on the roof.
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And light bulbs, for night time use. ;-)
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On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:47:39 -0500, "Martin H. Eastburn"

The Volt is nothing more than a hybrid that can be charged from the wall. That doesn't excuse the absurd price, though.
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Ford made some very ruthless and fantastic corporate acquisitions. Everything they sell today has some element of what they learned from such outfits as Volvo, Jaguar etc. A brilliant stroke was the parallel developments of the C 30 Volvo and the Mazda 3. Then they recouped a reasonable chunk by selling one of the carcasses to the Chinese.
Somebody seems to know how to run a car company on a global scale. That Fiesta is going to kick some butt.
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HeyBub wrote:

Hmm, using the argument of the Democrats however, IIRC, Korea was *not* a declared war, thus Truman was *not* exercising power during wartime.
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Mark & Juanita wrote:

You're correct - I misspoke. I should have said "Of course, acting as Commander in Chief, the president may do as he thinks best..."
The presence or absence of a declaration of war has no practical effect on the president's powers.
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:57:46 -0400, Jack Stein wrote:

That's not totally incorrect, but it's a gross oversimplification. It's only one version of socialism. Just like any other political/economic system, there is considerable diversity of views among those who call themselves socialists. Considerably more than among those who label anyone a socialist who is not a far right radical.
For a (remarkably) reasonable summary of the various versions of socialism see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
I was a bit surprised at the following quote:
"I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate (the) grave evils (of capitalism), namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals. In such an economy, the means of production are owned by society itself and are utilized in a planned fashion. A planned economy, which adjusts production to the needs of the community, would distribute the work to be done among all those able to work and would guarantee a livelihood to every man, woman, and child. The education of the individual, in addition to promoting his own innate abilities, would attempt to develop in him a sense of responsibility for his fellow-men in place of the glorification of power and success in our present society."
Albert Einstein, Why Socialism, 1949
Seems ol'Albert was a utopian as well as a physicist :-).
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 10:41:42 -0700, Robatoy wrote:

Please differentiate your comments from my post. The last sentence above was not mine, but yours.
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I don't know how that posted that way. Certainly not intentional.
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Aaaaaaaaaa-men, Brother !
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wrote:

And we all know how well the planned economies have worked out.
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Lobby Dosser wrote:

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Well, it just hasn't been tried by the right bunch of people yet. i.e., the people currently espousing it of course. When *they* are in charge, it's going to work out just peachy, just give them a chance.
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That line has been going for something like 150 years!
All we are saying is give Communism a chance!
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wrote:

It worked out pretty well for Stalin. Why don't you think it'll work equally well for Obama?
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snipped-for-privacy@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:

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Well, OK it did work out really good for Stalin and also Castro and now going pretty well for Chavez. For the citizens of those countries, not so much.
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wrote:

Mark's point proven.
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On Jul 25, 1:20pm, " snipped-for-privacy@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"

What? You're riding on the coattails of Mark? No mind of your own?
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wrote:

Agreeing with Mark's assessment of "statist" vs. "socialist/progressive/liberal" is "riding his coattails"? Another prime example of your squealing.
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