: The thing you have to understand with mp and his fellow-travellers
: is that it doesn't matter what the circumstances, it is *always* the fault
: of the US. The US attacked on 9/11? It was our fault -- we obviously did
: something to make these people hate us. A civilian who went to Iraq to
: help rebuild the country's telecommunications infrastructure was beheaded?
: Obviously it was Bush's fault. USA Today the other day tried to generate
: moral equivalence between humiliating prisoners (for which we don't
: necessarily have the full story yet) with napalming civilians, killing
: suspects, and other events that resulted in the DEATHS of people.
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Nothing in what mp wrote suggests anything like this. Why on your view
is criticism of a war equated with hatred of our country?
You'd probably lump me in as a "fellow traveller" (my, how 50s of you!).
I think the US is a great country. I would rather live here than anywhere
else. I respect our military. A lot.
What I also believe is that we are engaged in a war that was justified on
the basis of very different things publicly and privately; that our
military losses in Iraq are a horrendous mistake; that Iraq will not
become a democracy, but will turn into another theoecracy dominated by
hateful and violent fundamentalists; and that we are not safer than we
were before the invasion. In short, I think we - the US, our
country -- would be much better off, in many ways, if the Bush, Rumsfeld,
Cheney, and Wolfowitz group had not decided to invade Iraq.
That doesn't make me any less of a patriot than you. Same for mp and
other critics of the war.
-- Andy Barss