Tis the season. In case you are a (long time) Turbo Tax Deluxe customer
like I was, beware that it has changed this year and no longer supports
schedules C and D (and more).
Caveat Emptor (may I suggest H &R Deluxe?). Just thought you might
like to know. There is an avalanche of 1-start reviews at Amazon.com.
Tell your friends.
On 1/17/2015 4:32 PM, Doug Winterburn wrote:
> On 01/17/2015 02:19 PM, Bill wrote:
>> Tis the season. In case you are a (long time) Turbo Tax Deluxe customer
>> like I was, beware that it has changed this year and no longer supports
>> schedules C and D (and more).
>> Caveat Emptor (may I suggest H &R Deluxe?). Just thought you might
>> like to know. There is an avalanche of 1-start reviews at Amazon.com.
>> Tell your friends.
> Never used Turbo Tax, but have used H&R tax software for years. I
+1 Started out using TurboTax along with QuickBooks. Got so pissed off
at Intuit's continual money grab I dumped TurboTax.
Went to H&R Block Premium & Business and never looked back. Nice
program even with the learning curve due to the way they approach the
interviews, etc. but it's sweet.
DO NOT buy from H&R Block. Better prices may be had with it on sale at
the Big Box office places or Amazon.com
I have Amazon Prime now and bought it for $39.95. It lists for $79.99
and H&R Block had a "special offer" just for me that was going have me
paying a bit over $60, I think. That includes a State Income Tax return
I've been using Turbo Tax on line for years. I find it easier than
buying the software and I get a discount through my bank. Hard to
believe they don't support C & D. But they do at extra cost.
I'm one of the ones they have infuriated! ; ) Not because of the
price increase, but because they have hidden the price increase! One
buys the $49 Deluxe version as usual and later learns that it doesn't do
what it used to! That is will be $30 more if you sold a single stock
and need Schedule D, and an additional 30 or 40 if you need Schedule C
(which I don't). The part that gets me is that the loyal customer
doesn't really learn the details until he or she is half-done with the
return. I'd call it fraud, but I'm not an expert.
I can certainly understand your frustration but what you are witnessing
is nothing new with TurboTax, they have been offering these type
upgrades for many years. I have been using TT for so long I just answer
the questions same as the previous year.
I was surprised that the basic version, the one I have been using for
years, seems to be much less expensive this year, $15. I think I had
been paying $25~$30 for the basic.
Add another to the list of Intuit despisers...
I refused to upgrade Quickbooks clear back after Pro 2000; it still
serves just as well as it did then.
TT has never been adequate for farm and was barely so for self-employed
consulting gig alone so after one year I just take the QB tax reports
and a bunch of memorized specific reports to my accountant.
Costs a little more but get the convenience of a second set of eyes and
he does all the amortization schedules and the royalties that I don't
think are available from TT at all at any price...at least didn't use to be.
But the biggest thing is I'll never spend another dime on Intuit;
they're just too sleazy.
If you're comfortable you know what to fill in, and just want
to avoid doing the math, there is an Excel spreadsheet here
which will do the math for you:
I've done my taxes this way for about 10 years. Much quicker
than Turbo Tax or H&R Block if your taxes are reasonably
H&R downloads all of the trades done through my financial folks, so the
basic doesn't cut it. I still have to scrounge around to find the basis
for some of these trades, but just having them all accounted for is a
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the
gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery"
Are you sure about that? I have only been using Basic for years and it
has always had Schedule C and my 2014 Basic is ready for me to enter
data for business income and expenses. If you are going by the what the
cover says, it can be deceiving. And if you have the program be sure to
down load the latest updates. TurboTax has always been late in having
all of the forms ready at the beginning of the year.
Either way TurboTax offers a 60 day money back guarantee, I would think
that dropping forms for those people that buy the same version year
after year might bring on a big retail refund, much more than they
profited from the sale of the product. Turbotax gives the refund, not
Just some thoughts in case you did not buy the product and were going by
the outer advisory cover.
Well give us a report back on how you like H&R Block. As I mentioned to
Doug, I misunderstood you and thought that you were saying that Schedule
C was not included. I now understand that you said actual "guided
support" of schedule C. I never used the support guides/advice anyway
so I will probably be OK. But seriously I would like to hear how you
like the other brand, I have never been a fan of Intuit.
Well, if you do use Deluxe to file a schedule C or D, without guided
support, then you cannot file electronically and the software will not
do a "review" (so I understand).
I've done taxes by hand for more years than I have done them on a
computer, so I'll be okay. : )
Further investigating backs up exactly what you are saying. I am on the
phone with TurboTax right now.
Dissatisfied customers do have options, however. One is to call Intuit
(at 800-445-1875, from 8 AM to 8 PM EST) and demand satisfaction.
Meighan assured Forbes yesterday that every agent at that number “has
discretion to do what’s necessary” to keep a customer— meaning, he said,
they will give customers a free upgrade if they demand it, or a
discounted one if that’s enough to keep them. (So, if you call,
threaten to jump ship and don’t settle for less than an upgrade.)
Block is offering dissatisfied TurboTax customers a free download of its
Deluxe software, which normally sells for $44.95 and still allows
E-filing of Schedules D and C. Gene King, Block’s director of
communications, says TurboTax purchasers should send an email to
email@example.com containing their name, email and phone number;
whether they use a Windows or MAC operating system; and a scan of their
store receipt for TurboTax or a copy of the email showing their TurboTax
download code. In return, they’ll be sent a link good for one free
download of H&R Block Deluxe + State. (Data you’ve entered in last
year’s or this year’s version of TurboTax should be transferable.)
Ok, I misunderstood the complaint. I thought the complaint was that
there was no Schedule C. I have never used the TurboTaax
suggestions/support at all and why I eventually ended up buying Basic
for the last 10~15 years. Wow, thinking back, I quit using a CPA in
1985 when my TurboTax came to the same result to the penny. If I had a
question I used the actual IRS explanations. Those are the ones that
will hold up.
I can certainly see the problem if one depended on TurboTax to explain
and guide ones way through the returns. But given TurboTaxes
circumstances, all they really have to offer is advice. I'm not really
sure if they can simply charge for free forms and offer nothing else.
And FWIW this leaving out advice to get you to upgrade has been an on
going thing with TurboTax. When I first started using TurboTax 30+
years ago and before Intuit bought it there was only one version IIRC.
But, this is the way Intuit does business, it use to be that Quicken was
free back in the mid to late 80's and then they started charging $19.99
and that was much much more than the bug riddled program was worth. I
still wish Dollars&Sense was available. LOL
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