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Hi guys, My family and others are going to Las Vegas for the first time! The trouble is that none of us has ever been there! Does anyone have some suggestions for us? We are a group of 12 ( 4 adults and 8 kids, from 5yrs to 16 ) and none of us are really gamblers. We would like to spend the night ( at a cheap hotel ), get some good food ( at a cheap eatery ) and see some sights in the Las Vegas area. I want go to Hoover Dam and take a lot of dam(n) pictures, take a tour and ask a lot of dam(n) questions. ( Sorry, I couldn't resist. ) What do you guys like?? Thanks in advance, Jon H. Saugus, CA
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As for food, don't miss the Mandalay Bay buffet. If it's still even 1/2 as good as it was a year ago, you'll be pleased.
Brian.

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Food is exceptionally good and cheap (or even free at the casinos). Excellent shows and all-night entertainment. Las Vegas is not designed for kid's entertainment, and you might feel restricted from some of the fun. Use little cash--take traveler's checks and credit cards. I drove across Hoover Dam--didn't stop but it's a sight to see. A trip to Disney sounds better (than Vegas) for your particular group to enjoy.
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see www.cheapovegas.com for cheap hotels and more ideas and the cheap food places. This is one time I like to splurge on a hotel. I prefer the MGM, getting a room overlooking the strip is really nice. Usually the cheapest rooms are at Excalibur, Stardust, Westward Ho, Stratosphere, Circus Circus and the Frontier. I don't know about downtown, wouldn't want to stay there anyway.
For the kids, take them to the indoor theme park at Circus Circus and let them do kid things while you do adult things. I recommend you see at least one show. Showgirls at the Rio is nice and only about $22 a ticket with a coupon. For the whole family, see American Superstars at the Stratosphere. While you're there take the kids to the top and ride the Bigshot.
Don't miss the light show on Fremont street downtown. It is free and runs about every hour.
Stop by the Tropicana. They have a giant slot outside that you can pull once a day for free and worse case, you'll win a deck of cards. You can get a free margarita at the Casino Royale across from the MGM and while there, watch the volcano erupt and scoot on down the street to Treasure Island for the free pirate show. Then go to the Bellagio and watch the fountain show, all free. The Casino Royal has cheap craps, sometimes $1 min, others $2 min.
If you don't live where a In and Out Burger is, eat at the one in Vegas. I is up Tropicana near the freeway.

Since 9/11, the tour doesn't go inside the dam anymore.
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Your Killing me !! I have not had an In-N-Out burger since.. I gues I'll have to get me one when I go to SFO in Jan. Yummmmm
Great Advice.
Rich
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Thanks, I'm killin' myself. I live in Texas and there isn't one for over 1000 miles. I was so pleased that I looked into a franchise, only to find out they are family owned and not for franchise. I've also thought of stealing the idea here in Texas.
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I've got an In & Out Burger about 4 blocks from me! That should qualify as my first gloat! :) We used to drive over 25-30 miles to one; then about 18-20 miles to a newer one. Then the fast food Gods answered our prayers.
If you are in Texas you should have a What-A-Burger.
dave
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Yep, 2 within 3 miles of my house and 1 within 3 miles of my office :) But, they aren't as fast. The whole concept of #1,2 or 3 is what I like. I hate morons that can't make up their mind or ordering special holding up everything. In-N_Out was made for me :)
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Dave By the Bay:
Where is the closest to Redwood Shores?
Rich
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not sure where RS is, but there is an In & Out in or around Daly City, just off 280. Also there is one on El Camino in Mt. View or Sunnyvale. I always get those 2 confused as they all blend together!
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maybe I should change my handle to "Dave by the Bay". Then the acronym for my handle won't be so "handy" for the miscreants. :)
dave
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I don't know about that. I think you are going to carry a legacy. I might add that you SOMETIMES come across the wrong way with your posts. IMHO.
Redwood Shores is North of You on 110 and 2 exits south of 92- San Mateo Bridge. I will be out there the week of Jan 19. I hope it doesn't rain and it nice and warm.
Rich
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yes, I know.
but that beats the way Cramer, et al come across ALL the time! :)
I hope it doesn't rain either, but hey, we ARE in the middle of a desert, and NEED some rain once in a while, so...
I don't know where you are comin' from, but I'll go out on a limb, and predict that the weather here is nicer than where you are at.
dave
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Coming from CT. It is Cold (20-20's) and we've already had 2 Snow Storms.

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brrrr! I'll be in Seattle tomorrow... it won't be quite so cold as your area, but damn if it'll be as nice as SJ! The bright side is, I'll only be there for a few days. I used to live on the East Coast. Mass, NY, CT, so I know what it's like, and don't miss it 'tall.
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yahbut, you've got Fuddruckers in TX. I'd kill for one of those places nearby, in Chicago.
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Have you had an In-N-Out Burger? You think Fudruckers is better?
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It isnt' really a fair comparision. In-N-Out is fast food, albeit excellent fast food. Fudrucker's is more like a homemade, thick burger with better trimmings. If I had to choose, Fudd's gets it hands down but like I say, they serve different puposes.
And at Fudds, you can wash it down with a beer :)
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Bruce wrote:

Not the ones in New Mexico<sigh>...
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In rec.woodworking Grandpa <jsdebooATcomcast.net> wrote:

Ahh, that's too bad Grandpa. Sorry.
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