OT: To Google, or not to Google. That is the question

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John Dvorak has some interesting things to say about that and a few other items. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1787713,00.asp
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THAT is the question.:)
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Larry Jaques wrote:

Wow, Dvorak may regain my respect if he keep writing sane things like that.
Just the other day I overheard a tech writer asking someone if you could freeze milk. The answer was taken without question. Google coughed up an answer in less time then it took to phrase the question, and it was a much more complete answer to boot. Sometimes it is a lack of adjusting to having all the information at hand, but sometimes it is just a lazy mind. It seems easy enough to tell the difference once you observe people for a bit. The former can be helped, the latter are helpless and hopeless.
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Why, just this morning I Googled another NG for some info about motorcycle wheel alignment. After reading a few hits, I realized that I was actually looking for FORK alignment. Adjusted my search, and Presto! I got the info, adjusted the alignment on my forks, put the tools away (for a rare change), and wrote this message in 15 minutes. Gotta love the Internet.
-Phil Crow
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Makes you want to say "There your sign" doesn't it? Kind of a toothless article though Try Fred Reed he devotes his writing to the dumbing down of America. His style of humor fits well for this bunch. http://www.fredoneverything.net/FOE_Frame_Column.htm
John Dvorak has some interesting things to say about that and a few other items. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1787713,00.asp
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Knothead wrote:

His current column is right on.
Been there, worked there.
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The guy can write. His take on Hunter Thompson is the best I've read. The last paragraph in that one is deadly.
Bob
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following your link (thanks for that) :
"Being hit on the head by a piano imparts little understanding of pianos."
Maaan...the truth in that...ROTF
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Larry Jaques wrote:

Larry:
I read JD's columns every month. One of the few interesting things in PC mag -- which has dumbed down considerably since the beginning.... (Been in the business of high tech a long time.) (Interestingly Dr. Dobbs went the same route but has now returned to its roots lately. The last issue was interesting -- for propeller heads anyway.)
On google: It has its uses. Since people started buying in earnest on the net if has become less so. If you are looking to buy a specialty item, Google can be very frustrating.
Started a thread in rec.crafts.jewelry about silver hinges. For a while it was like one of the electricity threads here. People insisted that there were thousands of links to where to buy them and I was just stupid -- didn't know how to use google... (They may have been right about some things -- but not about google :-) ) In the end someone did take up my challenge and admitted that they had the same results. There were thousands of "interceptor" sites that responded to the query -- attempting to persuade me to "click through" so they could get a commission and a click through ad fee. ...But no silver hinges. Silver coloured in steel, nickel whatever - but no silver. Many (most?) of the links were simply fraudulent. In the end -- no silver hinges. I did talk to other people who make jewel boxes -- I will plate my own from now on -- like they do -- for the same reason -- no commercial silver hinges. Despite thousands of links...
On another issue. Paper books are generally "edited and refereed to death". Anybody can put anything -- on a web page. DAMHIKT. There is no agency for truth and justice on the Internet -- not one of any effect anyway. Obvious points, but often forgotten in the quest for knowledge.
You can always Check out Rick Mercer and his "Talking to Americans" segment of the old "22 minutes" TV show. We are the "Unknown Country" here -- despite being America's largest trading partner.
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Assuming this isn't just a problem created for conversation, maybe you didn't approach the problem the right way. What about taking some hinges of your choice to a jeweller to have them silver coated? If you do go that route, I'd advise your talking to a jeweller first to find out what type of metal is most easily silver coated.
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Upscale wrote:

It wasn't. We solved it in exactly the way you suggest. I had thought of plating originally - but did and do want solid silver (alloy) hinges for "authenticity".
We went through that previously, thanks for the thought and that is exactly what we will do here (for now). The post lead to some very helpful people -- like yourself -- that suggested plating as the only alternative to custom built hinges.
Brass works fine BTW. A very nice lady who makes beautiful jewel boxes suggested Brusso hinges -- because of their high quality. SWMBO is providing the used fixer. :-) I will provide the container, battery and nail. :-) There are a few technical issues -- but I was given some instruction.
And as far as talking to a jeweler -- again right on... If anyone needs help on similar issues, rec.crafts.jewelry has truly expert denizens and they are very helpful. Many are professional jewelers and metal workers and crafters.
I did not mean to restart the thread though. That much is true. It got beat to death and resolved as much as it was possible -- unless someone _knows_ where to obtain "reasonable cost" silver hinges -_off the shelf_.
Note emphasis. :-)
They are for the following style. http://woodwork.pmccl.com/Business/productsbusiness/productcatalogbusiness/productpagebusiness/southweststyle.html
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sorry..had my keyboard in Dvorak mode...
I think the 'dumbing down' of America AND Canada has another agenda as well. I made sure I stated that the same is true for Canada as well as the US because, heaven forbid, the brown-shirt flame artists would spin it into a US vs THEM war.
The 'dumbing down' of North America (isn't that better?) benefits the governments by being able to pull off any stunt they desire, by wrapping it up in lingo nobody understands. No point in telling the little people what the real motives are, but I assure you, none of it is to benefit any of us.
We are the little serfs who toil and hand over our dues willingly to the Lords And Masters who know what's best for us. If we were smart, we would realize that the Boogie Man really doesn't live under our beds, but we're not, so we look up to the Lords And Masters to protect us from all that is evil. If they happen to be a little low on evil-doers, I guess they'll whip up a few in the lab, eh? The smart Lords and Masters even have us believe that we have some control as to who The Lords and Masters are!! Instead, the Lords and Masters are playing tag, having agreed a long time ago that they should take turns as to who gets to rape us every 4-8 years or so. The Big Media loves this game too, they get nice revenues every election.
Add a few opiates (religion) to the mix, keep us stupid, and what the Lords and Masters end up with is a nice, well-behaved crop of serfs they can harvest at tax time. They know just how to appease us with just enough luxury items, like power windows, to stop us from throwing all them bastards into the ocean.
Speaking of tax, this is how one serf proposed to handle his tax bill: (This guy happens to be American...could be Canadian as well..same games are played here)
April 14, 2005
Internal Revenue Service Department of the Treasury Washington, DC 20001
RE: My Tax Remittance for 2004
Enclosed is my 2004 Form 1040, together with payment.
Please take note of the attached article from "USA Today" archives. In the article, you will note that the Pentagon paid $171.50 each for hammers and NASA paid $600.00 each for toilet seats.
Please find enclosed in this package four toilet seats (value $2,400.00) and six hammers (value $1,029.00). This is in payment for my total tax due of $3,429.00.
Out of a sense of patriotic duty, and to assist in the political purification of our government, I am also enclosing a 1.5 inch Phillips head screw, for which HUD duly recorded and approved a purchase value of $2200, as my contribution to fulfill the Presidential Election Fund option on Form 1040.
It has been a pleasure to pay my taxes this year, and I look forward to paying them again next year in accordance with officially established government values.
Sincerely,
Another satisfied American taxpayer
---------------
Anyway.. enough of my ranting, I have work to do... about 12 hours of it... (6 hrs go to the Lords and Masters, which allows me to keep 6 hours for myself. With that I can buy things so I can give another 15% to the Lords and Masters)
I get like this every April...wonder why that is... the weather?
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:49:30 -0400, the inscrutable Robatoy

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Bingo!
--snipperoo--
Yeah, must be.
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wrote:

Dude.
We should get together and hang. We could figure it all out. No, really.
But we should be fishing for smallmouth when we hang.
We should also be drinking.
Not only should we be drinking, but we should be drinking Guinness - which would neutralize the geographical and political boundary thing.
Of course, a snifter of Tullamore Dew would go well with the Guinness.
And we should be in a tent, next to a lake fecund with the aforementioned smallmouths.
And we should not have computers with us - for they are as a foulness in the mouth of true speaking.
And we should have fair weather - for foul weather will encourage the over consumption of Guinness and Tullamore, to the point where nothing matters anymore, which would keep us from our fishing.
Then again, I say pray for weather, fair or foul - for either will take us where we need to go.
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Only if you put the worm on...and take the fish off the hook...

Only home-made sour mash. No taxes, remember??

check!
I'm bringing a wet-suit, a hat with corks dangling from the brim and rubber boots... white ones.
You?
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Robatoy wrote:

Robatoy:
You are in deep doodoo and I do mean deep. You have revealed the secret national dress code -- to a _foreigner_. It is fortunate that you did not reveal the left-handed-upside-down secret handshake (palm greased with $1M bills). That would have been super-double-icky-thought-crime and got you twenty years in the slammer and a week teaching ghost walking at the local base.
Now straighten up and fly right or your colonel-ship in the local militia and exploration club will be canceled forth-with.
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Now that's a heavy-duty allegation. Only ONE super-double-icky-thought-crime has ever been committed by a Canadian. There's been a plethora of straight icky-thought-crimes...a few doubles even..but the second super-double-icky-thought-crime, so far, has not been uncovered. Sorry..it's all I can say, can't stay, must leave... there goes that van with the tinted back windows again...spinning antennae on the roof... the driver has 3 fingers on each hand...white gloves...big black ears..... he's not from around here...
Speaking of CBC..<g>.. there's gonna be a show at 7:45 PM tonight..I meant..speaking of super-double-icky-thought-crime, our PM is going on national TV and he's going to be pleading for his political life cuz we caught his croonies with their meat-hooks in the federal cookie jar..and now he's sorry. I say fukkit, let him hand in his white rubber boots, corked hat, and blue wet-suit..(somehow Watson figured out the wet-suits were blue...how do you suppose he knew that, Will?...Will?...Hello??)
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Robatoy wrote:

Sorry, couldn't reply immediately. I was watching the Gomer Inquiry -- yah know, Where they string up the Gomers who can't fake records properly. Can't even fake an audit trail properly. Complete F******g amateurs. We hire _idiots_ these days. The type of guys that would know howta stain cherry... _ooopppssss_...
Anyway... I am _busy_ with my encoder ring. Gotta get a message through to the black suit guys who are tailing you. Their picture quality is terrible... they're probably eating too much BSE coated beef....
My blue wet suit is at the cleaners. Did you need to borrow one??? Can't help. I do have white hard hat. Ho corks balls on it though. It goes pretty good with the strap on sandals though -- kinda stylish.
Anyway as for this even's show (and tell on everyone but myself show...) I am making up a loop of rope with a special knot. The neighbours are thinking of sending a delegation to Ottawa. I am drawing on my shipboard experience to make this rope loop with a special knot. It is a modest example -- but I am sure the the lynch^H^H^H^H special party will go quite well.
Then we can vote in the honest, sensible, moderate guys like.. like... like...
Anyway -- Just _google_ Gomery and Claude Boulay. (Claude Boulay -- the embarrassed man with the red face that mislaid a few tens of millions and won't tell where they are... Not to be confused with Corriveau -- the very content fellow who mislaid a few tens of millions of dollars and we all know where they are, and Broulay who squirreled away a few tens of millions of dollars -- and knows exactly where they went.)
There, so much for your notion that only one Canadian has ever committed super-double-icky-thought-crime.
And now -- back on topic -- with the mention of _google_.
Don't get us off topic again or the MIBs have been instructed to retrieve the secret magic encoder/decoder ring and raise your taxes.
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There's a third nation in North America (some include a fourth).
Or have you been dumbed down? ;-)
Kevin
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Hell no... I was born dumb..*S*
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