OT: The more science you know, the less worried you are about climate

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This ought to make the global warming alarmists heads explode:
<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/29/science_and_maths_knowledge_makes_you_sceptical/
http://tinyurl.com/7olglo5
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 19:40:18 -0700, Doug Winterburn

I wanna see the YouTubes of their heads exploding! LOTS of 'em, please.
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 19:40:18 -0700, Doug Winterburn

So, what the story says is that the more scientific or mathematical knowledge a person has, the more they scrutinize and analyze an issue and think independantly?
And you think THAT will make the same people's heads explode?
Huh, go figure.
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On 05/31/2012 09:56 PM, Zz Yzx wrote:

Aw, come on - that was just a fire cracker. Let's have at least a hand gernade!
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On 5/31/2012 11:56 PM, Zz Yzx wrote:

Well Yeah! The global warning enthusiasts think that people are going to take their word for it just because they have gathered data and arranged it so that it looks like global warming. Those that think, know you can take that same data and make it look like we are headed for another ice age.
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On 6/1/2012 7:40 AM, Leon wrote:

Lets not forget that much of the data on climate warming has been cooked and does not stand up when looked at from a scientific knowledge.
The biggest falsification is taking a few statistically insignificant areas (relative to the total surface of the earth) and saying they can detect a couple of tenths of a degree change when the temperature of the earth varies by approximately 100 degrees at any minute on any day of the year. 0.2 degrees with a a data spread of 100 degrees will not pass any statistical test of significance
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meh.
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On 5/31/2012 8:40 PM, Doug Winterburn wrote:

<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/29/science_and_maths_knowledge_makes_you_sceptical/

If global warming exists, that should be good news to woodworkers. It would increase the supply of exotic rainforest hardwoods.
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Doug Winterburn wrote:

<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/29/science_and_maths_knowledge_makes_you_sceptical/
Let's summarize: The soft science people are using real science (statistics) to discover that real science types don't agree with the soft science experts.
Who to believe?
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wrote:

Yeah, but... which group is that really smart guy, Al Gore, in?
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 16:57:53 -0500, Gordon Shumway

A whole sub-class of his own. He truly deserves to have his head explode for his many sins in this lifetime, specifically associated with Anthropogenic Global Warming(kumbaya).
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snipped-for-privacy@Planet.Melmac says...

He's a politician, which means that you can tell he's lying because his lips are moving.
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On 6/1/2012 4:57 PM, Gordon Shumway wrote:

Truly, the only thing Al Gore believes about global warming is that a lot of suckers will make him rich.
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On 6/1/2012 3:20 PM, HeyBub wrote:

Statistics isn't science, it's mathematics.
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Just Wondering wrote:

Um, of course you are correct.
Without mathematics, though, scientist would just be guessing.
I recall a professor telling us, in his class on Tensor Analysis, that some of the math we were studying was literally only weeks old and that the physics community was really raising hell wanting better (math) tools.
Maybe that's why, come to think on it, my fellow graduate students in the physics department went out of their way to avoid me. Yeah, that was it!
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 19:40:18 -0700, Doug Winterburn

'k, here's the thing: Similar contorversies have occurred for centuries, I submit:
1. Earth-centric vs heliocentric solar system 2 . Spontaneous generation vs. biogenesis 3. Flat vs. spherical earth 4. Creationism vs. evolution 5. Force at a distance (i.e. "How can a magnet exert a force on a piece of iron AT A DISTANCE? There HAS TO BE AN ETHER!") 6. Plate tectonics 7. Numerous examples in physics including Maxwellian electromagnetic worldview vs. Ensteinian Relativsm &tc.
These pardigm shifts took decades to centuries to resolve, and they were resolved by brilliant, educated men and women, despite public or religous opposition. But they WERE resolved and the pardigm shift accomplished.
Now, global warming IS A FACT, despite popular laymen's lamenss and disbeliefs. Whether it's anthropological or not is unknown. But the fact is we CAN react and mitigate to some degree.
The fact remains that for each paradigm shift, there was a winning side, and a losing side.
I submit, respectfully, that you'd have been on the dumb side of each.
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Zz Yzx wrote:

Good examples! You will note that the position that turned out to be right was the one proved by the "hard" sciences.
I deny that global warming is a fact. Virtually all the evidence tending to support that position is equivocal, manufactured, or improperly analyzed. Even IF there is some global warming, I deny that we should react to it to try to mitigate it. First, we have no idea whether proposed actions will actually work. Second, a warmer earth is not a disaster, at worst it's a push. Third, and most importantly, all the proposed actions to mitigate global warming are hideously expensive. Unimaginably expensive.
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On Thu, 31 May 2012 19:40:18 -0700, Doug Winterburn

And another thing:
The author of that article is an illiterate buffoon:
The title states "The more science you know, the less worried you are about climate". Which you geefully regurgitated.
Yet, the opening paragrapgh states:
"Americans with higher levels of scientific and mathematical knowledge are more sceptical regarding the dangers of climate change"
So, the illiterate author made the jump from "skeptical of the data" to "less worried" (a classic non-sequitor). And you swallowed hook, line and sinker.
You are subscribing to the "Great Global Warming Scientists Conspiricay".
Do you aslo subscribe to the "Great Jewish Global Banking Domination Conspiracy"?
-Zz
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On 06/01/2012 06:48 PM, Zz Yzx wrote:

Great - now we're getting at least one exploding head :-)
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 19:42:06 -0700, Doug Winterburn
Do you aslo subscribe to the "Great Jewish Global Banking Domination

Or one left behind.
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