OT: So much for tolerance.

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When it comes to "discussing" political or religious subjects, it is best to chose words wisely and use their first / primary defintions found in any of the common dictionaries - Oxford, Funk & Wagnell etc. in order to accurately communicate your views on a subject and avoid misunderstandings. The term "spin" has shifted from "one interpretation of an ambiguous event" to "I don't care if the facts contradict what I'm about to say - in fact I have no idea if there are any facts to support or negate what I'm about to say - but I want YOU to believe what I'm about to say is fact - BECAUSE that will benefiit me, or the people who pay me to "spin" you."
Tolerance n. 1, the character, state, or quaity of beihng tolerant esp. freedom from bigotry or prejudice
Tolerant adj. disposed to tolerate beliefs, views
Tolerate v.t. 1. allow to be done without active opposition 2. concede, s the right to opinions or participation
source: Funk& Wagnalls Standard English Dictionary 1993 edition
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Horse hockey. Filter out OT posts.
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Oh goody!!! ONE opinion regulating a whole bunch of opinions.. Yippee. THAT will encourage the free exchange of ideas. NOT!
Listen to BARRY.... "stick & rudder." (NOT to be confused with Dutch Rudder.)<G>
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On Sun, 18 May 2008 09:01:20 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy

Of course, I had to go and Google "Dutch Rudder"...
I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything. <G>
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LOL.. the stuff one learns on Fark.com (WHICH, btw, is a pretty cool news aggregator , if you don't read too many of the posted comments. The Photoshop contests are pretty cool though.. so is farktography.) Fark is an acquired taste..<G>
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On Sun, 18 May 2008 09:01:20 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy

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oki'myournewmoderatorsopayattention
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(snip)
Entirely coincidentally, I'm sure, but Dilbert had a great strip on tolerance yesterday.
http://dilbert.com/2008-05-18 /
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Good one... <G>
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Mekon wrote: > Entirely coincidentally, I'm sure, but Dilbert had a great strip on

Love it!-
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The Norway story is not unlike what I witnessed in The Netherlands during one of my visits. A close friend of mine, one who I went to school with in my youth, has, as far as memory serves me, always been a gay man. I was always impressed with the way society in that country tolerated his life style. During one visit, a few years ago, he shared with me the harassment he'd been receiving from muslim youth in Amsterdam where he lives. Imported hate. Yeehaw.
Personally, I tolerate whatever belief anybody wants to adopt. But, just like if somebody wanted to stuff a raw oyster down my throat, I also do NOT want their beliefs stuffed down my throat.
I'm tolerant, but don't get in my face.
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Robatoy wrote:

Intolerant of your own face?
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cute
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I don't know who said it first: "The last refuge of a scoundrel is the law." Regarding Marion Barry's, er, legal troubles, one pundit commented that "The last refuge of a black scoundrel is racism."
Perhaps we can add, "The last refuge of an intolerant scoundrel is intolerance."
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wrote:

Samuel Johnson stated that, "The last refuge of a scoundrel is patriotism".
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I'm beginning to be amazed at the amount of stuff we agree on :-).
Luckily, that still leaves a lot to argue about - the devil is in the details :-).
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Larry Blanchard wrote:

If it makes you feel any better, my rightwing friends and colleagues find my ideas (and perhaps even me personally) just as obnoxious as the lefties do. That's how I know I'm thinking properly - if I am irritating both sides simultaneously - sort of like finding the crosshairs for a carrier landing.
This is worth a read BTW:
http://www.cato.org/pubs/catosletter/catosletterv6n2.pdf
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Jack Stein wrote:

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Well, that and when a socialist want to help the less fortunate, they always want to use other peoples' money to do it.

The word tolerate used to mean "put up with". The modern liberal usage of the word means to agree, accept, and embrace.

The left is pretty good at projection: projecting what they would do or want to do, onto the other side.
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Mark & Juanita wrote:

Bingo. Worse that that, they are willing to use threat and even force to extract that money from Other People to server their "good" causes.

Bingo again, although it is even worse today. "Tolerance" as explicated by the ideological left mostly means embracing anything that is different, deviant, strange, offensive, or that which undermines traditional values. Western tradition, however, isn't particularly well tolerated by modern liberals ... they tend to sneer at that most often.

Just wait until you get President Obama. You are going to see an evisceration of the Constitution like hasn't happened since FDR. And we have the milquetoast Republicans to thank for this.
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Tim Daneliuk wrote:

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I'm kind of expecting that both the Republican and Democrat parties could experience a split after this election. Neither one will split before because neither wants to hand the other a win. However, if you are a traditional, JFK Democrat, you've got to be appalled at what your party has become and the ideals that it embraces. Look at the candidates, a hard-core stalinst and an untested radical from Chicago. ...and there are leftists on the democrat side that say both Hillary and Obama are too conservative and not radical enough. On the Republican side, it has abandoned all ties to small government conservatism and has just decided to become Democrat-lite. The presidential candidate takes advantage of every opportunity to poke the conservative base in the eye and sides with the other side of the aisle more often than his own party. Libs like Olympia Snow are more liberal than Republican.
Depending on who gets the democrat nomination, you could see either the more conservative democrats split off and join the new, no-longer Republican party, or you could see the radicals split off and form the party of Nader. On the Republican side, the conservative base could well carve itself off and leave the new republicans to figure out a new base. The mid-term elections could be quite interesting.
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