OT: Simply amazing

[Mark & Juanita]

This should cause some statist heads to explode:

[Greg G]

Bush's problem was that he simply wasn't prepared for the immensity of the problems he was presented with and had a pack of old Nixon era/PNAC/NeoCon players making decisions for him. He was elected on the reputation of his father and simply wasn't up to the task as is often the case with oligarchical candidates. You could tell by the end of his term that he was having second thoughts about many of the things that were done on his watch, and his and his father's "legacy." As a result he took much more personal control in the last few months, including the refusal to aid Israel in bombing Iran, refusal to pardon traitor Libby instead commuting his prison sentence (which was also a mistake but pacifying the party leaders), and the expansion of health care clinics. He was weak in the face of more seasoned players like Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rove, and caught a lot of flack that he would not have otherwise simply because, as Command and Chief, he was the sacrificial figurehead. And you better believe they knew this and took advantage of it. The coddling of Saudi Arabia and whisking the bin Ladens out of the country after 9/11 made for bad press as well. Does this make him a great president? Emphatically not, but certainly not the worst we've had. His terms were no cake walk, which is probably what he was expecting, but it is intrinsic to the job to filter out untoward influences and act accordingly in the best interests of the country. After all, he was supposed to be the Ultimate Decider.

Just my 2 cents...

Greg G.

[evodawg]

Thanks for the post and link. Great reading. It's amazing how many now have buyers remorse.

[dadiOH]

My mileage varies.

[Robatoy]

WTF is this you're starting? A right-wing apologist circle jerk?

[Tom Watson]

It's bad enough that it suffers from the gender confusion expressed in its handle - but the confusion apparently goes much deeper.

Regards,

Tom Watson

[Mark & Juanita]

I expect no less.

As far as the topic, are you really proud of your [let's see, I think you made the comment, you really wanted] "elite" president in his handling of this latest terrorist attack?

Cold doesn't begin to describe him.

[HeyBub]

No, he's simply observing that President Bush and his wife visited and consoled fellow Texans who were victims of a terrorist attack.

There were no press in attendance and non-personal photos were prohibited. Bush did the same thing dozens of times when he was president.

[Robatoy]

Maybe he should have thought of that before sending the troops into harm's way.

[Leon]

Maybe he should have thought of that before sending the troops into harm's way.

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[Robatoy]

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(Hal, and his famous ashtray!)

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(Thank you very much, folks.) (Thanks, Dean.) (Yeah, it's not bad.)

[HeyBub]

He didn't send them so much as he allowed them to go. Remember, all our military are volunteers. They enlisted for the opportunity to kill people and blow things up.

Fully 85% of those who've served in Iraq or Afghanistan have re-enlisted at the first opportunity. The remaining 15% retired, were invalided out, or mistakenly married harridans. Heck, the 1st Infantry Division (parts of which have served as many as FOUR tours of duty in Iraq), routinely meets its re-enlistment goals some months before the end of each fiscal year.

You've got to look long-term, too. We need a war every ten to fifteen years to keep the tip of the spear sharp. After all, who would become a fireman if there were no more fires? As things stand today, just about every military commander, from sergeant to 4-star, has led men in battle. You can't BUY that kind of experience.

We've also got to protect and encourage our warrior class. War is what they were trained to do, it's what they need to do, it's what they were born to do. They serve for their country's sake, for honor's sake, for glory's sake. For their lands. For their families. For themselves.

[Han]

"HeyBub" wrote in news:eO6dnWtI1LR-qJ3WnZ2dnUVZ [e-mail]:

Sorry, but that statement reminds me too much of what the Germans were saying at the start of WWI:

Eine frische fröhliche Krieg.

Remind me, hw many casulaties in WWI?

[dadiOH]

You forgot apple pie :)

[tom]

[e-mail]:

Thank you. Tom

[Tom Watson]

When the conservative movement was represented by the likes of Reagan, Goldwater and Buckley it was a true representation of a substantial sector of the American political spectrum. The leadership had vitality, wit and grace. But now that it is fronted by Limbaugh, O'Reilly and the sad-eyed-clown Beck, it is nothing but a gang of thugs and incipient brown shirts.

People like this don't amount to a shit stain on Bill Buckley's drawers and the people who follow them are the real sheep on the island, who'd better seriously watch their ass.

This is more of a reply than you deserve. Googlectuals and Political Scientologists like you and HeyBoob have never had an independent thought and never will. You vomit up the pap you get from the tit of the disc jockeys that serve as the intelligentsia of right. And you wonder why those who respond to you simply dismiss you as idiots, rather than argue the points of what you think are your positions.

It's because you are idiots.

Res ipsa loquitur. (Latin for, 'You've passed the duck test'.)

Regards,

Tom Watson

[Swingman]

In this nation at present, purposely divided by ideology so that the fleecing is easier, ALL who take part in divisive 'conservative versus liberal', 'democrat versus republican' rhetoric are idiots, contributing directly to the problem by playing into the hands of those looking to "divide and conquer".

[notbob]

[Tom Watson]

That sounds more reasonable than it is.

If you want to stand with them, fine. I'm tired of them smearing their shit on the walls and expecting me to discuss it as though it's art.

Regards,

Tom Watson

[Swingman]

Easy now, what's unreasonable is making that assumption ...