OT reminder - Keep a close eye on your kids!

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Rob.. with family plans, a phone for an additional family member is $20 a month.. (on Verizon, anyway) Assuming that she won't lose it or spend 2,000 hours a month calling her friends, I think it's a good idea to have her carry it.. in an ACCESSABLE place.. If you need a phone in a hurry, digging it out of a backpack or duffle bag doesn't do it.
I think that cell phones may be a deterrent, if the scumbag sees the phone before trying the bad deed..
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mac davis wrote:

Doesn't work that way, makes them a target....
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if they're using it? I guess I don't have a criminal mind.. lol
I think the last person that i'd mess with is someone who could dial 911 in a hurry..
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On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 22:59:13 -0800, mac davis

Check the stats on false 911 calls and busy times for 911 some time, mac. The system is overburdened and response time (if responded to) is not at all what it should be.
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message

Many police stations actually have telephones installed these days, and you can even store that number in a cell phone's speed dial ... imagine that.
Think positive instead of negative ... just do _something_.
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Swingman wrote: snip Did they catch the bastard? I've got a rope. Dave in Fairfax
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Dave in Fairfax wrote:

Rope hell. I've got an extremely dull utility knife, and a ballpein hammer.
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Whew... And you and I were just talking about that last Wednesday when you indicated that you want your kids to never drive anywhere alone...
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"Leon" wrote in message

Leon, brother ... I can't tell you how close this was. Makes a grown man want to cry!
Like I said, I'm still shaking.
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However on the bright side Swingman, lessons like this really hit home with what you warned your daughter about and she saw first hand that you cannot be too careful.
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Swingman wrote:

Good job - to all of you!
I'm sorry it happened; and I hope the police find him.
The after-effects wear off slowly. I came home mid-day right before Christmas and surprised a burglar here. He got away - the police are still looking for him; and I'm still angry - angry that he violated my home, angry at the powerless feeling that 40+ years age difference produced, and angry that he got away with some of my SO's jewelery and the cash she'd tucked away for our next vacation. I'm angry that he upset me enough to "lock'n'load" and reassess everything in the house for its destructive capability - and I'm more angry than anyone would ever understand that he's made it almost impossibly difficult (for however short a time) to be the gentle person I've always wanted and tried to be.
And I'm absolutely certain my home is nowhere near as precious to me as your daughter is to you.
Remember to be gentle with each other until you've all gotten past the really angry/scared stage. There's no point in letting that guy spoil any more of your lives than he already has.
The rest of the year is bound to be better.
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"Morris Dovey" wrote in message

Man, I know EXACTLY what you mean.

Well said ... and many thanks for the reminder and sentiment!
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God that's awful! I really sympathize with both your and your daughter. As a police reporter I got to talk to the parents of a few kids who weren't that well-drilled and cool-headed. Even second-hand those situations stay with you for the rest of your life.
You said one thing in there I'd really like to emphasize: Situational awareness. It's worth more than anything else (including a gun in your purse/waistband) in the case of street crime.
In addition to the parents and victims, I also got to talk to some of the perpetrators after they had 'gone straight'. I remember one evening sitting in an all-night coffee shop until the sun rose and getting a lesson in 'Mugging 101' from an ex heroin addict who had been a specialist.
What all the ex-criminals agreed on was that selecting a victim is not a random process any more than a lion stalking a herd of antelope picks a target at random. They were all looking for a particular kind of mark and one of the most important criteria was lack of awareness about what is going on around them.
If you stay alert and in touch with your surroundings you're a lot less likely to become a victim.
The other thing, of course, is to know the danger signs of a situation. It sounds like your daughter did. You should be proud of how well you trained your daughter.
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Thank you for the informative post.
I hated to bother the forum with more OT rants, but if just one other kid can be as lucky because a parent gave it some thought... what the hell.
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Swingman wrote:

Situational
your
kid
hell.
My kids are out and on their own, but two of three carry cell phones. The male seems less likely to need one, anyway.
Your post is germane to any who have, or have had, kids.
A note on situational awareness: a T ball bat by each entry door is a help, for the nerves even if it's never needed, it is innocuous looking, and there is no problem with wall penetration.
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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 21:39:27 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@TAKEOUTmindspring.com

Sorry, what exactly is an "ex-criminal"? Someone is either a criminal, or they're not. Did you mean ex-convicts, maybe?
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I think he meant ex-criminal. No longer a criminal are one that participates in criminal activities. Regardless of whether you put your shorts on with the brown in front or back is pointless. Most of us understood.
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I mean people who had nominally (and in most cases actually) 'gone straight'. They weren't committing crimes in any more. (Now one of the guys had been helped to his decision by the fact that he was confined to a wheelchair after he tried to rob the wrong storeowner.) Most of them were addicts who had their addiction at least temporarily under control.
Fortunately, this isn't at all uncommon. According to national statistics something like two-thirds of offenders choose not to re-offend after each incareration. They serve their time, finish out their parole and move on to other things.
Even among the ones that aren't imprisoned, studies indicate that for most people, crime -- especially street crime -- is a temporary activity. If they survive long enough most of them give it up.
Now, would I swear that any of those folks never committed another crime? Not only no, but hell no! I'm sure some of them went back to it. Further, the minority that continue to commit crimes after they've been incarcerated a couple of times are extremely dangerous.
I wouldn't want any of these folks living across the street from me, but the ones who were candid were a very valuable source of information.
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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 22:38:28 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@TAKEOUTmindspring.com

Ah, so it's a "not active criminal" type, rather than a "not a criminal". Gotcha. Cause that's kind of a "yes or no" question rather than a "used to be" type of thing.

It's the 1/3 who keep doing it that are more of a problem, though.

Well, at least they can conribute something.
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On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 16:51:19 +0000, Dave Hinz wrote:

I remember reading that 80% of violent crimes are committed by repeat offenders. Aren't statistics wonderful.
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