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The shooting that every one has heard about in Fort Hood was tragic on so many levels and continues to be.
My utmost respect goes out to the armed forces and my deepest sympathies to the victims and their families.
It was tragic that so many were injured and killed.
It is tragic that the shooter is only being identified as a suspect rather than "the shooter". Damn it, when there is a room full of eye witnesses there is no suspect, there is only the one that committed the crime, the witnesses and the victims, Plain and simple.
It is tragic that when the truth and facts are so blatantly clear that there will still be days and days of investigations long before there is a trial.
It is tragic that the trial will last for months, maybe years.
It is tragic in this case that there will be a need for a trial.
It is tragic that our country has been steered to believe that one does not have to fulfill his obligations or have any accountability.
It is tragic that justice is seldom truly served.
It is tragic that our country is filled with so many spineless and corrupt politicians that truly rely on the ignorant, which are so easily deceived, to vote them into office.
It is tragic that those politicians are committed to insuring that their ignorant constituency becomes even more ignorant with each passing generation. Think Public Education.
It is tragic that out politicians have appointed themselves as "our keepers".
It is tragic that there is no longer any honor in winning. Think trophies for every body and no longer keeping score so that there are no winners.
I am truly grateful that I recognize all of this and know that not so deep down, evil is fueling all of the tragedies.
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wrote:

I couldn't agree with you more. Too many seek to blame "society" or are too afraid of offending some whiney S.O.B. That's just plain Bull Shit.
Damn you Leon, now you got me all fired up.
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Leon wrote:

Well lets not forget the State Run Media making excuses for this lunatic or terrorist. Making statements like our policies in Iraq and Afghanistan caused him to go over the edge. What a bunch of Bull Shit. The guy never saw any active duty and went to Med School on our dime to the tune of 500,000.00............
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evodawg wrote:

This was as much an act of islamic terrorism as 9/11/2001.
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Swingman wrote:

Ah, but we wouldn't want to jump to any conclusions until all the facts are in, would we?
Could we at least say that Hassan "acted stupidly"?
/This PC crap is going to get us all killed
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Oh noooooooooooo we surely would not. We cannot trust anyones recount of what they actually witnessed during the slauder. We woul surely need to see a video tape form several angles to verify all of the statements. and if there was no video tape, well, who knows if all of the witnesses just made all of this up.

Absolutely. He acted stupidly for joining the armed forces when he had no intention of fulfilling his obligation. He was very stupid. A very stupid man. Still he has no excuse for murdering all of those soldiers.

Politicaly Correct in it self translates to stupidity. Yes it is going to turn future generations in to the sheep that follow the political figures to the slauter house.
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Leon wrote:

Think it already has. Did we not all see a year ago the sheep following the Messiah to the voting booths. I also remember some fainting by just being in his presence. I have zero confidence in the direction of this country.
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evodawg wrote:

I wish Obama well, but I think he's going to go down in history as another Jimmy Carter--a decent man without a clue.
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:35:56 -0500, "J. Clarke"

He ain't Jimmy. The is a man with a clue and an iron fist under velvet. How he is going to get everyone to think that he fufilled they're dream they thought his election promised them will be interesting to watch. But then the world will end in 2012 so who gives a damn.
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His hardest problem will be getting a lot of people off of the government checks and have them start working.
We all hope he does well but we have seen this play out before. Eventually every one has to get a job for a country to prosper, not every one wants a job.
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J. Clarke wrote:

I heard Lawrence J. Peter (the discoverer of "The Peter Principle") say: "I have been studying governments, man and boy, for over forty years. I have yet to determine whether we are being led by well-meaning fools or by really intelligent people who are just putting us on."
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Despite your insulting rhetoric, there's a huge difference between people hoping and people turning into sheep as though hypnotized. Your "Messiah" as you choose to call him offered and does still offer hope. Sheep as you call them are people without the knowledge to realize that they're not going down the right path.
Should your Messiah end up bringing your country out of dark chapter into a profitable world, what will you say?
Of course you'd say that it would have happened anyway. Your arrogance just wouldn't allow for any other conclusion. Sounds like you're the sheep to me.
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:25:42 -0500, snipped-for-privacy@teksavvy.com wrote:

That is exactly what happened. The fact that you don't understand that point only enforces his "insulting rhetoric."
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:56:22 -0600, Gordon Shumway

Possibly so, but whether you want to admit it or not, he also offers hope and that's pretty powerful. And maybe, just maybe, he'll fulfill some of that hope. All those running against him were offering was same old, same old bullshit without promise of anything new or different.
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So far all we've seen is same old, same old and an empty suit waving in the wind ...
Or as someone put it - Bush Light.
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"So far" as you label it has been a relatively short time. Considering the mountain of grief that the US financial industry is in, it always surprises me when people still expect instant results and instant gratification. A whole lot of people are going to get a sudden education course in reality and eye opening as time marches on. There's just too many people who are 'have nots' to allow the money mongerers to continue as they have. Your most hated term 'socialism' is going to come home to roost in one form or another.
Consider what's about to come as the US equivalent of the French Revolution.
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It'll go the other way if it comes to socialism and revolution.
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What's that? The government using US military might to quell all local uprising? Terrifying thought if that's what you mean.
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snipped-for-privacy@teksavvy.com wrote:

Yeah, he offers hope if we will only surrender our remaining liberties to him. He will then take care of all of us. His version of "hope" has never turned out well for those who have taken that path. His version of solutions is to offer more of the same government intervention and interference and meddling that got our country into the financial mess it now faces.
No thanks, that's not hope, that's a velvet glove encasing an iron fist. The glove will wear thin shortly after enough power has been assumed by the government, then we will get to see the real re-distributionist policies pushed in earnest. We're already seeing that with Pelosi-care -- $250k fine and 5 years in jail for not purchasing the government mandated health insurance or paying the 2.5% of income fine.
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On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:35:15 -0700, Mark & Juanita

Hmmmm? Nice attempt to blow smoke but it just doesn't fly when you consider all the other countries around the world that *have* taken that path and done quite well. Take Canada for example. Despite it's problems, (all countries have them you know) we have a distinctly more stable banking system than you do. It's better now and history has proven it more efficient in the past.
How do you explain this? Next you'll be telling me that our success is a direct result of the great and wonderful US of A coddling it's largest trading partner and next door neighbour.
Go ahead, I know you're itching to say it so you might as well get it off your chest before you explode. And then of course, I'll respond with the fact that the citizens of the USA are the most arrogant in the world and then we'll see the sparks fly. :)
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