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I don't know if this will link up correctly or not. But I though this was something Robatoy should see.
Apparently this picture was taken on a stage with a plain blue curtain background. But when back at the lab.... what happened? Is someone looking over her shoulder? Were you correct in your suspicions?
I had to laugh when I saw this, and didn't actually read the caption. Sure thought of you, though.
Robert
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I knew I should have been in bed an hour ago.
This might work:
http://tinyurl.com/ypmcvc
Robert
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wrote:

She's not likely to win the nomination so I suppose this is pointless, but what is it specifically that you guys don't like about her? Here's her voting record. What do you find so objectionable:
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_idU463
I decided to back Barry Obama a few months ago so I can't be characterized as a Clinton supporter. But some of the attacks she faces seems unwarranted. There's an angry old man running around this group with a signature that declares her the terrorists' choice. I'm sorry, but on policy alone, that preference has to belong to Bush. If FDR has followed the Bush doctrine, he would have attacked Peru after Pearl Harbor but I digress.
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I've got to agree. It baffles me. Around here, it's all Tammy Wynette's "Stand By Your Man" (at least in the churches..divorce rate is just as high as anywhere else, maybe higher), but the local papers published a slew of angry letters about how that "woman" stayed with her philandering husband, going into a lot of rationales that they cannot possibly know for sure. It has gone on from there.
I'm not particularly wild about Barry, but McCain has started to make me very, very nervous. Huckabee would be laughable if I didn't live in the midst of the kind of zombies who find him lovable.
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Socialism
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What socialist measures are you talking about?
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Single-payer, AKA taxpayer funded national health care five year lock on interest rates
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Certainly I can see reasons to oppose that but unfortunately, we currently pick up the tab for catastrophic illness. Once a person is too sick to work - after six months of limbo - medicare picks them up. (Or something like that, if my details are wrong, pls correct them.) Medicare is funded by tax payer dollars. Is it "socialism"? If so, should we abolish that program?
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Not Medicare, Medicaid.
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Jeff wrote:

So ... one bad policy justifies another even worse one ... at least that's the line of reasoning the collectivists love to use.

Yes ... it (and Social Security) should be slowly phased out - say over 25 years or so. The Feds have no enumerated power to be in the healthcare business.
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That's fine. I figure old people who can't support themselves after their employer shows 'em the door will pose little threat since, well, they're old and poor. And if my neighbor's house is repossessed due to medical debt, well that's an opportunity for me to expand my empire....
Seriously, I'm not upset with America's entitlements programs. They're the least generous in the western world and our taxes are by far the lowest. I'll pay more taxes if they were guaranteed to go to infrastructure. It's our country. We ought to maintain it. I feel like we're more concerned with Iraq's infrastructure than our own.
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Jeff wrote:

And just how did these people get "old" ... they once were young. And when they were, they bore the responsibility of preparing for the day when they no longer worked - just like everyone else. To look at the end game without looking at the opening moves is naive.
If you feel compassion for people in this situation, you are entirely free to voluntarily help them via the myriad of charities setup just for that purpose. You are not morally entitled to hire the government to stick a gun in my ear to pay for what you believe needs doing (beyond the very narrow list of powers enumerated in the Constitution).

Both are irresponsible activities by the Federal government.
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I'm just doing group level analysis. While the market system is the best we have for determining pricing, it's also a zero sum game, i.e., they are winners and losers. In a sample of Americans over 65, I will find some who can't support themselves. There are host of reasons why they may fall in that category. Many may find themselves there due to incompetence. Some will be there at no fault of their own.
The issue becomes what do we do about them? Sure, you and I may be able to take care of ourselves, but do we really want a significant group of unhealthy specimens in our mix? Infectious diseases know no bounds. Personally, I take no offense, nor do I feel less free, due to America's entitlements programs. (When my social security check arrives, I plan to cash it.)

If you don't like democracy, there *are* other systems. Personally, I'm kind of fond of ours...

Well, our history is characterized by a bunch of irresponsible and often ill-advised acts but we've managed to do alright for ourselves. I don't miss those Limeys one bit....
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Jeff wrote:

You keep touting that tired communist meme. The market is *not* a zero-sum game. If it were, our economy could not have grown as it has during the course of history.
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We've seen phenomenal productivity gains over the last few years but the real median income barely budged. How do you explain that?
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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:21:53 -0800, Jeff wrote:

Now there we agree.
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Jeff wrote:

You do remember the huge gas tax increase of the 90's? It was meant to go to fix the "crumbling infrastructure". Same with numerous other tax increases that some have willingly accepted to "improve our infrastructure". How about we find out where that money is going before letting the congresscritters take more of the money we have left?
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Can you provide a source and context for that quote? I remember it as a measure to fill the budget deficit. And it did. Now suddenly we have another budget deficit. These ppl can't be trusted with a fork.
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Jeff wrote:

You seem to imply that we recently had a budget surplus or at least a balanced budget. If that is so, I wonder why the national debt has increased each and every year since 1960?
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We had a balanced federal budget but I certainly didn't mean to imply deficit reduction. But you must agree that the former must precede the latter. Unfortunately, the current administration did take fiscal responsibility too seriously ... okay, they weren't serious at all.
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