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Neil Brooks wrote:

Umm, no, that comment would not be known by that logical fallacy. Note Robatoy did not say that *because* they were exposed to public prayer in school and *because* they turned out OK, therefore, it was the exposure to public prayer that caused them to turn out OK. Robatoy merely stated that *even though* they were exposed to religious beliefs which they may not have held while they were in public school, they turned out OK. i.e. that exposure was neither causative nor detrimental to the final condition at which they arrived. Look that up in your college logic text and get back with us on that one.
For someone who has taken it upon himself to lecture this group on proper application of logic, you don't seem to have a real firm grasp of the concept.

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Ohhhhhhhhhh, it was SURELY implicit.
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Robatoy merely stated that

Actually, ... yeah ... I do.
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wrote:

inference <> implication

Not so much.
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On Jul 26, 5:01 pm, " snipped-for-privacy@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"

Yeah. So much.
He drew the correlation -- the BASIS OF the "correlation does not equal causation" fallacy.
Read it again. Here:
[QUOTE]Look at all the old bastards around you. They all grew up in that environment. Didn't turn out too bad, did they?"[/QUOTE]
The correlation is actually quite EXplicit, in that statement.
Whether you're saying it's positive causation (DID cause it) OR negative causation (neither caused NOR contributed TO it), either is a plain old, garden-variety logical fallacy.
Go find a logician, if need be, or ... look into it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation
Or find your own source.
BTW ... IF there were a moderate/Liberal who participated on this site ... one who ignored facts, spewed logical fallacies, and or reasoned backward from conclusion to "support FOR" that conclusion ... I might be inclined to jump THEIR shit, too.
But ... the more moderate the Wreck contributor, it seems, the more valid their positions, the better thought-through their reasoning, and the more sound their logic.
Coincidence ?
Oh ... I don't think so.
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wrote:

No, your inference.

...or in it didn't matter; no causation.
Fact: They grew up around... Fact: They turned out fine...
Your inference: Robocop thinks one had something to do with the other.

No. Nonsense.

You don't.
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"Robatoy" wrote:
Look at all the old bastards around you. They all grew up in that environment. Didn't turn out too bad, did they? -------------------------------------- Bigotry is still alive and well.
Our generation leaves a lot to be desired when it comes to toleration of our fellow man.
Lew
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Amen.
Annnnnnnnnnd ... cue Neil.
Paradoxically ... HORRIBLY intolerant of ... intolerance.
;-)
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On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 16:48:36 -0700, Robatoy wrote:

Well, I do remember when the pledge of allegiance did not have the words "under God" in it. I don't remember any religion in my public schools and I grew up in the bible belt. If there was any, it certainly didn't leave much of an impression :-).
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:20:56 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard

Damn, Larry. You're really an old farte, aintcha? They added those words in 1954, the year after I was born. ;)
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:33:53 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote:

By then, I was a high school dropout :-). I was born in '37.
BTW, the pledge was a socialist plot - see:
http://www.oldtimeislands.org/pledge/pledge.htm
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"Larry Blanchard" wrote:

----------------------- '37 was a vintage year.
At least that was what my parents told me.
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:31:31 +0000 (UTC), Larry Blanchard

Itoldjaso! But I should have used "ancient farte", huh?

Bleedin' Baptists...
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wrote:

Only because the extreme Left are a Godless bunch and want to shove their agenda down the throats of those kids who DO have a belief of their own. I think people should be allowed to worship and not have their prayers outlawed by some legislative body. It's similar to the abortion issue. I don't believe in abortions (other than for difficult medical issues) but I DO believe a woman should be able to decide her path for herself. You cannot legislate morals. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yet we do legislate morals. In some cultures a vengeance or honor killing is within the law. I ours, it is not. Morals are an integral part of a culture.
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Oh, boo-hoo-hoo! Diddy-diddy-boo! There's hardly a single republican I agree with about ANYTHING but I think Phil Graham was talking about Mark & Juanita when he said that we've become a nation of whiners. THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING! clucked Chicken Little. Got your Medicare going on, Mark?
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On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:50:19 -0700, Mark & Juanita wrote:

Isn't it amazing that Britain is always used as the example. Have you looked at, for example, the system in Japan? It works great.
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On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:28:40 -0400, Michael Kenefick
(Topposting corrected, you heel.)

What? You're paying $15k/yr for each -person- now? What Cadillac policy do you have? I'm talking about the bare minimum policy, with massive co-pays, gigantic thresholds, enormous out-of-pocket expenses. Actuals, once they set them, will probably be half again more.
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Talk is cheap.
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Michael Kenefick wrote:

No, it's IN ADDITION to the thousands you now pay.

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It is not without irony that your name is "Nuttle."
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Keith Nuttle wrote:

By "No one realized" I assume you meant "Not enough realized". A whole boat load of us recognize the lame stream media for what it is, and realized exactly what he meant. The problem was not enough of us voted to overcome the dunderheads and ACORN voter fraud to stop him.
Hopefully this will change, but between voter apathy and voter fraud who knows?
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