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Ah thank you for expounding.
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Here's but ONE problem with your thinking: I don't place myself on that continuum *relative to Americans* but ... relative to the world.
We're a right-wing country in the context of the world, so ... it's much more likely that conservatives, here, think anybody to the left of THEM is some sort of commie pinko socialist enviro-nazi.

Re-read it.
It seems like an inability to correctly read what's right in front of you .... ALSO plagues quite a few of you.
I'll wait right here.
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Don't bird need both wings to actually fly?
Ever heard of an eagle?
We're a right-wing country in the context of the world, so ... it's much more likely that conservatives, here, think anybody to the left of THEM is some sort of commie pinko socialist enviro-nazi.
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Yeah. HEARD of one.
But I'm a lousy golfer....
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Oooops.... Now you belong to the outcast group of the trolling club. You know the one where one person attempts to convince the real posters he has some friends?
I see you have been trolled quite well by this aussie, canuck, USanian, Dutch or whatever hole he has doug (sp?) in this group?
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Ouch.
Do you and Doug Miller write EACH OTHER's material ?
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I have been writing his for some time now.
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Ouch.
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busbus wrote:

Speaking of trolling, I think I may have run across a picture elsewhere of our master of logic: <http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/demotivational - posters-that-hot-girl-in-second-life.jpg>
/Childish? Yeah, but at this point, I really don't give a rip what the troll thinks

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"busbus:"
All your assumptions about me are unfounded, and -- not surprisingly -- pure bullshit. Guessing, about that which you don't know ... must put your mind at ease.
But it tends to lead you to be wrong a lot.
Your arguments, also -- almost without exception -- are arguments about ME, rather than arguments about anything I say.
You avoid trying to put forward a coherent argument, and -- instead -- try to jump MY shit (looking like a seven year-old, in the process).
But that's what happens when you're such a sloppy, illogical thinker who reasons backward from ... whatever conclusion makes them happy.
You seem among the worst of the worst, in that regard.
Please check with Jack(ass) Stein, to see if he'll be running bus service, to a Logic course.
Seriously.
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:o)
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Please, let's not forget "It's time for the human race to join the solar system."         —Dan Quayle
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busbus wrote:

Oh yes you can...
In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all, By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul; But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."
As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man There are only four things certain since Social Progress began. That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire, And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins, As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn, The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
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You're right. But that's part of the problem. The more important those conclusions are, the more you should seek out and understand contrary conclusions. It will either strengthen your conclusions or change them. In almost every instance, there are people of good sense and character that hold different opinions.
Just looking for news that supports your conclusions is just a way of patting yourself on the back and telling yourself how smart you are. (I'm using "you" in the general sense, not personally.) It also contributes to polarization on issues. "Everything I hear supports my point of view, so it must be right."
-- Doug
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In two words:
Confirmation bias.
What I've seen ... RAMPANT, here (not ONLY here) is example after example of just that -- confirmation bias.
Wanna' know the one thing that I'm willing to say "is a huge problem for this country" (just so much old-guy blather, usually) ?
Confirmation bias.
In other words ... well said, Douglas !
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Douglas Johnson wrote:

All I need is accurate information. I don't needed any conclusions from some damned media person.
It will either strengthen your conclusions or change them.
Nope, won't do either. I, like most everyone, have developed a value set that all information must pass through. This value set is close to impossible to change, and may have been fine tuned a bit since I was 12, but not much else. When I get others opinions, it is mostly for entertainment. I've rarely to never seen anyone change their views on anything. There are exceptions, but not many. For example, I've not noticed one left wing MF'er turn into a right winger due to arguments put forth in this newsgroup.

Nobody agrees on everything but changing someones mindset is very, very difficult, near impossible.

Sorry, but I don't agree. Yes, information must be factual. You get a ton of lies from the lame stream media propaganda machine, so watching it is not very productive. It certainly is good to get your information from a variety of sources. When it comes to someone else's interpretation and opinions on those facts, it's mostly just for entertainment.
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Yes, jack. We all know that you're easily entertained.
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You couldn't be more wrong. But having said that..... You are probably somewhat accurate in making that assumption as most extremists, right or left, have their heads so far up their respective asses that cannot hear or see. Those loons you will never change. There are, many like me, who aren't that hard-core left or right. People who at least try to fix a broken health-care system.... which in turn causes the extreme right to howl like stuck pigs, not because they understand the issues but because that's what they are trained to do. People like me also like to see the taxes being lowered as that is likely to stimulate the economy. Smaller government is a good idea. Prayer in school is a good thing. And above all, I read and listen. I have come away many times from here with a different perspective on some issues once it was explained in a rational and understandable way.
And you'll never believe who some of those 'contributors' (for want of another word) have been. No Jack, you're not one of them.
But I NEVER pull a 'Stein' by ramming my fingers in my ears and yelling: "I can't hear you, lalalalalalalalalalalalal."... and then pull out your gun and shoot those with whom you disagree. THAT is what makes you wrong, Jack AND an Enema Nozzle to boot. But extremists like you eventually self-destruct because the hate will eat you from the inside out.
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Robatoy wrote:

What you say is mostly worthless drivel.

What you are is a liar. That has been established more than once.

Trained by whom?

Government controlling your health care is not going to lead to lower taxes anytime soon. You're lying or stupid.
Smaller government is a good idea.
Yeah, so lets give government control over 1/6th of the economy, and our health to boot. Government controlling your health care is not going to lead to smaller government anytime soon. You're lying or stupid.

You are wonderful. A douche-bag, but a wonderful one. I think you might be GW Bush dressed up as a Canuck?
I

You start out with an empty head, it's not hard to fill it...

Why would I believe anything you say, you have already established you are a lying sack of shit. 90% of the time your posts are worthless 12 year old name calling, void of content, good or bad. When you make any effort to say something, it generally smells like that enema nozzle you seem fixated on.

No, never. You just make shit up, call people names and say about nothing worth while.
and then pull out your gun and shoot those with whom you disagree.

Really? I never even plonked, let alone shot anyone I disagreed with, but continue making shit up. The words of a 12 year old have little worth to me.
But

Hate and obsession are words you don't have a handle on. Nice of you to stick to childish name calling, it fits your limited wit much better than attempts at saying anything worthwhile.
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There. Fixed your response.
BTW, what's with you and 12-year olds anyway? Boys? Are you just as sick as those other Righwing Nutbars?
I also don't want to be seen in public with the likes of you... you know, when you lie down with dog you wake up with fleas and all that.... so I have to cut this convo off. You have nothing positive to contribute. You are empty. Have a nice life, Enema Nozzle.
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Would you two get a room or take it to email, please?
-- It is pretty hard to tell what does bring happiness; poverty and wealth have both failed. -- Kin Hubbard
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