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Seems to be working out pretty well for her. ...too bad about those 17-20% un(der)employed.
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On 7/15/2010 3:29 PM, Robatoy wrote:

And so he thinks ... note the imperial "we" in all his comments about the capping thus far.
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whadda ya mean? I saw him on the video feed with a wrench in his hand and now with all the oil in the gulf, it will make it much easier for him to walk on water<g>
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On 7/16/2010 1:30 PM, ChairMan wrote:

For me obama has stopped being a source of amusement. 18 months after pelosi killed the bailout bill the economy is in the worse condition it has been since the 1930's. Every time the economy thinks of recovering obama and his gang comes up with another way of thwarting it. His latest was the banking bill. Ever since the Senate took up the bill in the middle of April the Stock Market has been declining. There appeared to be a start of a recovery, then the Senate pass the financial takeover. The stock market restarted its downward decent and has lost 300 points in two days since its passage. The market ignores the good news and continues to shrink.
For four years, I went to college during the day and worked at night to get a degree; I spent the rest of my life scrimping and saving. Now in 18 months obama and the social democrats have destroyed every thing I worked for. No one realized this is what change meant. I guess obama definition of equality is bread lines for every one.
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Well you ungrateful So-N-So! Free food and free snipping of an in- grown toenail? And you are complaining?
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On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:14:59 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy

You forgot the "free" healthcare which will now cost us between THREE AND SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS APIECE PER YEAR when it goes into effect, IF our government is still semi-solvent by that time...
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Is that a total? Because that is 9 to 5 thousand less than what I being taken for now.
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Oh, you'll still have to buy yours.

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No shit! I'll gladly pay another ten thou in annual income taxes for the public option and be [at minimum] ten thou ahead of the private insurance curve.
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Dave in Texas wrote:

That is what you will pay. What you will receive in benefits will be considerably less. The British National Health System is coming to America, welcome to rationing, waiting lists, and lack of care for everybody except the rich who will be able to afford to pay the tax and buy their own care.
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On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:50:19 -0700, Mark & Juanita

Chicken Little! Do everybody a favour and stand where the first chunk of sky will land.
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Now, now. Not your country. Either of them.
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Welcome the "death panels". Berwick will be the first ghoul. ...I thought it might be Kevorkian.
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Toeing the Party line again, eh Mark? Man they got you sold in a bad way. No room for anything other than your extreme views. Extreme, Mark. Radical fanatical non-compromising views. Unreal.
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Oh, and Mark...." lack of care for everybody except the rich who will be able to afford to pay the tax and buy their own care."
How is that different than you guys have it now? Maybe The British System isn't the right system. Try the Canadian one. I'm exposed to that every day. It works great.
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Robatoy wrote:

Yeah, it's well known how great it works every time a Canuck slithers across the boarder to get timely, quality health care...
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You mean like Caribou Barbie and her family? Slipping across the Alaska/Canadian border to sop up that free Canadian health care?
Dave in Houston
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The Canuck that goes to the US for timely, quality health care is usually rich and doesn't want to wait those few extra days he feels could be a threat to his wellbeing. Often the referring physician has motives of her/his own.
The Americans we see come up here for specialty care, such as Sick Children's Hospital in Toronto, are here for their specific reasons and not as a reflection of the US system.
Now if I had a bullet wound, I'd want to be treated in Detroit where they have lots of experience with that sort of thing.
The nice thing about healthcare here in Canada, is that even in extreme cases, you get to keep your house and all those things you've worked for all your life. You don't leave your loved ones holding the bag for those greedy money grubbin bastards who at the golf course try to stand out as pillars of the community. I have met decent doctors though, not all are hard-wired to automated time clocks which show they can see 150 patients per day.
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The Canuck that goes to the US for timely, quality health care is usually rich and doesn't want to wait those few extra days he feels could be a threat to his wellbeing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nope. Washington state got a bunch of Canadian pregnant women delivering there because of a lack of beds in Canada. Then there was the governor of the Newfies ...
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I know a family here in Canada that was facing a 6-12 month wait to have tubes put in their young son's ears to drain fluid and give him back his hearing.
A bit of research, a couple of phone calls, and they took a family vacation to Disney Land that included the day surgery for their son.
Waiting time? "When can you be here? How about next Thursday?"
AND, because they were paying cash the anaesthetist gave them a 40% discount, citing a 270 day average time for payment from the HMOs.
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