OT: Internal Combustion Breakthrough?

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J. Clarke wrote:

You mean they wouldn't have him snuffed or buy the rights to the worlds greatest engine and bury it so they could continue competing with the rest of the engine makers on a level playing field? How surprising...
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Keith Nuttle wrote:

You mean the carburetor that runs on plain old water isn't real? I guess some oil billionaire tycoon bought the rights and buried it, or did they hire some spook to do him in...
Damn, I HATE when that happens...
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Lee Michaels wrote: ...

Where real life is spelled "thermodynamics"...
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I can't see it keeping cool either. The method of displacement might be different, but exothermic BTU are just that, exothermic. 850 HP of heat, is a lot of heat and in a concentrated package like that? Then there is the whole question of making it a sealed package. I'm not optimistic.
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Robatoy wrote:

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I'm speaking in more general sense of thermodynamics as in the three laws not just heat transfer.
I have the feeling the overall efficiencies claimed will not bear up to detailed scrutiny in practice.
Reminds me of, oh, cold fusion, say...the lone researcher w/ no replication outside of own laboratory.
But, then again, if he's really got something he'll become _very_ famous.
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dpb wrote: ...

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In a somewhat more general amplification...
There are many very clever and talented mechanical tinkerers who create wondrous mechanical gizmos of all kinds. However, often they lack sufficient abilities in analysis or precision in measurement or aren't careful enough in the measurement phases of experimentation to realize the results aren't what they would hope for. Or, in some cases, they're so convinced of the basic idea they make flawed conclusions by bending the interpretation to fit their conclusions. And, of course, there have been those who simply downright cheated in knowingly creating false data.
Until the invention and the technology can be brought to an independent testing facility and replicate the results and creation of the device there's nothing to do but wait and see if it "sprouts legs".
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dpb wrote:

B'sides if we just wait someone will pirate the technology and, with no development expense to recover, sell it to us cheaper - kinda like that string trimmer doohickey...
...and in less than two decades the patents will expire anyway, so if it's any good it can sprout legs then.
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On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:36:29 -0600, dpb wrote:

Good points...
But don't forget: - can it be manufactured? what about manufacturing tolerances? Lab boys can make a lot of things that cannot be put on an assembly line for mass production and get the same results time and time again.
- how long of a life of engine? 100,000 miles? or is it a major overhaul every 20,000 miles?
- will that engine start when air temp is below -10 F? How about running all afternoon in August way out in Nevada waste lands?
I think I will wait to pass judgment.
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Phil Again wrote:

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Isn't that what I've said in every response??? :(
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I must be reading more into this than is there.
Does anyone see a reason that he doesn't have this engine mounted in a car which can be driven as a demo?
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on 2/10/2009 6:24 PM (ET) KIMOSABE wrote the following:

My thoughts exactly. If he can design a complex motor, why can't he design a motor mount for a standard vehicle and put it to the test?
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"willshak" wrote in

I feel an episode of sarcasm comin' on.
Cuz designing the motor mounts would be too difficult of an engineering feat??
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Lee Michaels wrote:

Good call!

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KIMOSABE wrote:

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Yeah, I think I do... :)
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KIMOSABE wrote:

That's a very good question. Given what he says about the dimensions it would certainly fit in most of them. Given what he says about the power it could certainly propel most of them.
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J. Clarke wrote:

Yeah, but it ain't got nothing on the carburator that runs on tap water... Thats been around more than 50 years and not one auto manufacture uses it. They buried it so their buddies, the billionaire oil tycoons, can keep selling gas...
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Only just guessing, but there aren't very many good reasons. Maybe, just maybe, it hasn't progressed beyond the air pump proof of concept stage yet. Even if it is, a usable drivetrain is more than just a functioning short block, although I find it hard to believe the 10 engineers on his payroll can't get an engine controller and fuel injection system to work, if that's the issue. You just know Bubba would've strapped it onto a gokart frame even before the exhaust had cooled from its first test run. It does make one wonder, doesn't it?
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Too early at this point.
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KIMOSABE wrote:

Don't fret, Obama ben Laden and his fellow socialists will give GM $50 Billion of our fake money and force them to build a better car, or else...
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dpb wrote:

That's not allowed on the Internet! <G>
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