On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 00:18:03 GMT, Groggy scribbled:
Luigi waves back
Hi Grogs. Hang around a bit, will ya. We need you here more than your fellow Strines.
Luigi Replace "nonet" with "yukonomics" for real email address
I have only seen Melbourne from across the bay..drunk on a filthy beach in Altona...it was a bit better in Williamstown...but the beer was the same all over. To this day, I still don't know why I didn't make it to Melbourne.
in the next week or two though. How is the other task coming along? Did you manage to make and send something?
I have been looking at your work in the Wikipedia, great stuff Luigi - it's a credit to you.
cheers,
Groggy
| | | Looks around and recognises some old faces | |
Morris pokes his head out of a cloud of sawdust, sneezes, and waves back with both arms. Looks around shop (again) for any trace of intelligent design and finds none. Shrugs and kicks a stack of turtles out of his way as he heads for the keyboard.
| "hey there jo4hn, Leon, Doug, Dave (all of you except the BAD one), | Tom, Luigi, Mike, Morris, Larry, David, Charlie(s), Todd, the Johns, | Jay, Barry, Theo - is that you back there?, Phil, P van, Steve, | Edwin, hylourgos, Rob, Swingman, Nahmie, Buddy, Bridger, Robatoy, | Rumpty and hey! where's the Canuckistani? Chuck? you there Chuck?, | Toller, Jeff, Andy, Upscale, DJ, Patrick, Andy, Lew, Thomas, Bob, | Bahb, DJ, Nuno (still here Noons? Wave son), Phully, Ron and Keeter | (!) - where's Keith gone? O'Deen? Steve La?" | | Singing "where have all the woodies gone, long time pa-asses"
Most are still around somewhere. Lately it's been rather like a contest to see who has the strongest stomach. At times it would seem that rational thinkers are scarcer than straight tuba-fors. Still, there are enough who craft to outlast themselves to make reading worthwhile.
|The noise level seems to follow Mother Nature's mood. It's been a rough year all around the world, and that shows up even here. Add to that the discontent with the unusually inept performance of those who make their living by feeding at the public trough; and you get a lot of people wanting to do (or at least say) something to make things better. Lotsa babble.
Thanks for stopping in - I hope you can stay for a while...
-- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA
I haven't noticed all that much of the crude or racial stuff since I added about a dozen swear, racial and political words to my filter. Either that or in combination with my becoming so inured to them that I gloss over them without taking much notice.
It not the words that give me indigestion, it's the lack of honest thought before they're spoken/written.
I have a tendancy to become particularly queasy when people claim unquestionable knowledge of the unknowable. More so when they exhibit the conceit and arrogance of attempting to impose their personal beliefs on others.
I don't even try to filter it - I prefer to know exactly where the snakes are.
-- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA
It's unfortunate, if you're going to be conversing regularly in this medium, you're going to become hardened against it. The kind of interchange you'd prefer is mostly attributed to people one actually knows, not disembodied text carried over the ether.
I spent enough years on comp.lang.c to be about as thick-skinned as I'll ever be - and I think your assessment is fairly accurate: I /do/ try to treat people as if we were in the same room. Neither/none of us are 'etherical abstracts' to our selves - so it seems reasonable to me to neither treat anyone else nor allow anyone else to treat me as other than a real person. It's a Golden Rule kind of thing.
As in everyday life, I avoid the vexatious individuals and try to keep a figurative "eye" on those I consider dishonest and/or dangerous - and also as in everyday life, I try to remain aware of the effect of what is being said might have on impressionable young folk. For example, I'd a lot rather that a ten year old read that the circular saw blade was invented by a woman than that breast size (real or otherwise) has anything to do with success as a craftsperson.
Come to think of it, I /am/ feeling a bit disembodied. I think I'll go raid the refrigerator and pour a cup of coffee.
-- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA
Current government must really bother you.
As a woodworker, I would be fearful to sit on a chair made by such people - to say nothing of sitting on it at their table and swallowing anything they might serve.
Umm, yes - which government were you talking about - North Korea, Iran, Syria, Somalia, ...?
-- Morris Dovey DeSoto Solar DeSoto, Iowa USA
That's very frustrating. I'm a relative newbie here and found the original Tom Watson informative and up to a similar confidence level with Swingman's straight experienced answers. The straight poop with a site to show their work. ' Now I don't know what to think. Sad, really.
Hey!! They're holding up the universe, doncha know?
Groggy wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:
Well Hey! Back at ya;
Of course we care. Got any gloats?
Hope we see you back around ...
Sat, Oct 22, 2005, 10:57pm (EDT+4) snipped-for-privacy@bigpond.net.au (Groggy) doth say: Umm, that was "tool rich", not just "rich" - I wish! (don't we all). The troll babies must have pathetic lives - all very sad really.
Yup, understood. But, so many of the people out there with money nowadays are such total - hmm, how do it say it politely? - well, "dipsticks" is about as polite as I can put it. Tools is good. Not to put everyone with money down, I have met a few with money, and one or two with some really, really, serious money, who are really outstanding people. But, so many more, are just plain dorks.
Trolls are sad, pathetic, little dorks - which may partially explain why they are trolls. They consider their existance miserable, and want to pass it off on anyone they can. It's kinda sad too, that probably, with not too much effort, most of them could actually meet someone real, not pretend, of the opposite sex, and go out on an actual date (their mother does not count). Seems like they seldom make the effort tho.
Ah well, life is basically good anyway. Take care.
JOAT If it ain't broke, don't lend it.
- Red Green
Sun, Oct 23, 2005, 9:44pm (EDT+4) snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.net (CW) Current government must really bother you.
Poliiticians bother "me", period. Along with myriad other undesirable traits, most of them seem to believe that, the second they enter office, that automatically makes them the world's leading authority, on any, and all, subjects. I feel fear. And, "professional" politician? Is that anything like "professional" criminal?
Hypertext Webster Gateway: "politician" From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 (gcide) Politician \Pol`i*ti"cian\, n. [Cf. F. politicien.] [1913 Webster] 1. One versed or experienced in the science of government; one devoted to politics; a statesman. [1913 Webster] While empiric politicians use deceit. --Dryden. [1913 Webster]
From WordNet (r) 2.0 (wn) politician n 1: a leader engaged in civil administration 2: a person active in party politics [syn: {politico}, {pol}, {political leader}] 3: a schemer who tries to gain advantage in an organization in sly or underhanded ways
JOAT If it ain't broke, don't lend it.
- Red Green
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