OT: How many who have already made up their mind WOULD vote for the other party if a different pair were running?

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Just to shed light on political discussions...
A simple YES (I'd switch) or NO (My mind is made up) is fine. No explanation necessary or wanted. You can pick any other pair, as long as they belong to the other party, and I don't want to know who they are.
YES or NO
I haven't made up my mind, as I want to see the debates, so I can't vote.
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Yes
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Lemme see here, Barry.. whatcha got there... a HulaPopper on 20 lb test? That Garcia Graphite doesn't look all that used..<G>
Too bad I'm not allowed an opinion, even though I'm sure that I have been a US election watcher for many, many years.. My 'hang-out' pub used to be in Port Huron Michigan for decades. I have family ( sister and 3 nieces and a nephew) living in the US. My Best Man is an 'Murkan, the Rev that married Ang & I, was air-dropped from Fairhaven IL, our wedding party was, seriously, half US military personnel. I'm willing to bet any wager that I am more informed on North American politics than 80%+ of your population. So.. you're right, I don't vote in US elections... but neither does 50% of apathetic Americans. I will also go a bet on my knowledge of US geography with the bulk of US citizens. I'm also a certified conservative.... as long as the party leaders produce worth-while candidates and you guys have shit the bed as we have in Canada.
When Reagan and Mulroney sang Irish Rose together on stage in Canada, I stood in awe that Reagan would allow to be seen in public with that asshole Mulroney.
THE ticket choice you got right now?
Easy
NOT McCain, he's a hothead. Finds blood in all his solutions, too bitter. NOT Palin, she's a diversion and window dressing and an attempt to get votes from the Hillary crowd and to appease the base.
Biden for president, Obama as VP.. (all I had to chose from was the current crop.)
But.... I'm a Canuck.. by choice... so nobody gives a fuck about what I think... and I DO think. (Did you know I have Green Card?)
Good luck, you wreckers... I can put up a lot of you when I have to...and together we shall ground dust collectors.
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Oh... why Biden? He's an insider, right? Well.. you have to know how to run a combine if you want to harvest.
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Robatoy wrote:

Interesting. You're a conservative but you think the third most liberal U.S. senator would be a good pick and the most liberal a good veep.
I'm voting for the slower path to socialism. I'll stay down here until we're more socialist than Canuckistan.
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Your ignorance shows. Canada is hardly socialist. Only the health-care has some hints of a socilaist ideals. The rest of the country is survival of the fittest with plenty of opportunities to get filthy rich. We are big on selling oil and NG to customers. To call us socialist only shows a complete misunderstanding of the facts.
Nice attempt at a troll though.
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Robatoy wrote:

Selling oil & NG hardly disqualifies a country from being socialist. Does the name Hugo Chavez ring a bell.
No attempt at a troll - would you deny that Canada is further along the path to socialism than the US?
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Your ignorance shows. Canada is hardly socialist. Only the health-care has some hints of a socilaist ideals. We are big on selling oil and NG to customers. To call us socialist only shows a complete misunderstanding of the facts.
Yeah, but when compared to US ideals, everyone else necessarily has to be socialist.
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What US ideals? To make the rich richer and screw the rest? Plunder the nation's wealth and ruin the goodwill across the planet? Naaa, I ain't buying into that being the right/moral way to live.
Ideals are supposed to have some positive component to them. Unless you want to call Islamofascism's desire to kill all the infidels one of the ideals of the terrorists? Bullies will always bump their noses into the butt of karma. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
I haven't felt this belligerent in a long time...LOL
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Ideals are a point of view. They don't necessarily mean a right or moral way to live. For the most part, a sizable portion of the US populaation has their own point of view and everyone else be damned.

Nothing new there. If you weren't as belligerent as you are, I probably wouldn't read your comments as often as I do.
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LOL.. WELL then....
Ideals are a point of view, but they shouldn't be at the exclusion of other people's point of view.
In my point of view, Ducati makes a great motorcycle...but that doesn't mean that there aren't other manufacturers of motorcycles who make bikes more suitable for other people.
The fact that our Canadian political system works for us, warts and all, doesn't mean that other systems don't work elsewhere. Tito was a dictatorial bastard, but kept Yugoslavia together. There even was an upside to Saddam's Iraq. They all were given an education, healthcare was better than in many parts of the world... but he was thinking about switching to the Euro... well.. the rest is history. My neighbour on one side listens to Beethoven..loudly.. and my neighbour on the other side listens to punk rock.. loudly... They both raise their kids in such a way that they have respect for me.
It's that 'shoving ideals down the throats of others' that I have a problem with. The Iraquis don't hate us for our freedoms...for fuck sakes... they hate us because we're trying to exploit them and trying to impose OUR ideals onto them.
My granma always said that it's better to catch flies with honey than with vinegar... Mind you, that was the same granma who always said: "It doesn't matter if you're rich or poor, it's always nice to have a little money."
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Upscale wrote:

I'm way late on this thread, but I'll second Upscale's point. Keep on rockin', Rob
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No I will vote for Obama. I would consider Kay Huthins the Republican Senator from Texas but the republican Party would'nt go for one sociallly to the left like pro choice etc.I'am against abortion but also very Pro choice. Hands off Government
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[snipped the usual krw drivel]

That's just plain stupid....and stupidity is something you seem to have no shortage of.

You obviously have no concept of what communism is. It shows. God, I hate discussing topics with ignorant people.

Go fuck yourself.
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In article <3aae4000-cd2f-42fb-bdbb-63b4576dbb86

Of course. Snip context that makes *you* look like the nutbar you really are.

Of course it's stupid, used as a demonstration *of* stupid.

I know what a communist is. You *are* one. I know what a liar is too.

Another leftist Canuckistani that can't take the heat but sure does like the kitchen.
-- Keith
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I'm starting to see where the problem lies.
We have no republicans or democrats here in Canada. We have Liberals and Conservatives.
US...............Canada Republican = Conservative (who can be compassionate) Democrat = Liberal Conservative= nutbar fundies Liberal Lefties = National Democratic Party (Socialists)
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In article <036a9420-78b0-48bd-a663-781b9ac33133

Both of which are communists, apparently.

The loony leftist speaks.
-- Keith
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"Fred the Red Shirt" wrote:

private party to another when SOHIO (now BP) had the City of Cleveland condemn a perfectly good office building currently in use, on Public Square so that it could be torn down to make room for the new SOHIO headquarters.

I was in downtown Cleveland the Sunday morning they imploded those buildings to start the project.
It was July-August, 1981-1982 time frame.
Had dust all over the place as a result of the impolusion.
They also took a building that had been put on the National Register to protect a few years earlier and removed it for that project.
Understand BP moved headquarters out of Cleveland to I think Chicago a few years ago.
Kind of ironic.
BTW, how is the E/D case in Lakewood (Cleveland suburb) coming along?
Lew
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B A R R Y wrote:

I'd have voted for Hillary, but between McCain and Obama I'll take McCain unless he does something egregious between now and the election.
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: Just to shed light on political discussions... : : A simple YES (I'd switch) or NO (My mind is made up) is fine. No : explanation necessary or wanted. You can pick any other pair, as long : as they belong to the other party, and I don't want to know who they are. : : YES or NO
NO; NO F'ing way.
Dave [not back] in Houston [yet]
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