I don't know if you think the same way I do about this reality show?
I work for an architect firm and even the best designer here will take
several days before making up his mind and finalize a project as simple
as a bathroom remodel. Now we're talking of redesigning a complete
house (and not a small one) for a client the designer(s) don't even
know in the first place. Just the construction alone of a 300K$ is
nearly impossible in a week even if you staff it with 10 000 workers.
You reach a point where the number of worker becomes a nuisance and
slows down the entire project. Plaster, paint, varnishes and all those
products need time to dry too.
I think this TV show lies to the public at least on one aspect: they
have work prepared already before showing up at the door of the lucky
family. The design and the construction dwgs are already made minus
maybe a few details, the prefab house has been ordered already and
ready to ship, etc.
What do you guys believe?
<<Along with a ton of others. Trading Spouses, Survivor, the list
goes on! It's a TV show. But wait, what about Star Trek, or......... >>
I can't vouch for the others but clearly, Star Trek is real. How else can
you explain how we've been assimilated by the Borg?
To e-mail, replace "bucketofspam" with "dleegordon"
Anyone would have to be crazy to think they don't have 95% of the project
preplanned before they start. You don't get a building permit and line
up a contractor and 100s of workers overnight.
I'm sure they interview relatives and friends to find out what the
families like beforehand. I'm also certain they have the blueprints
drawn beforehand. Thay would have to for permitting and such.
They used to do silly things like claim they have no house and then the
next day a prefab house shows up from Canada. No way anyone builds a
prefab house overnight, let alone ship it from Canada. I noticed they
quit doing this silly stuff.
It is still an interesting TV show. They really ought to do a show that
shows how they go from picking a family all the way to the door knock and
everything in between that happens before the week of building.
Obviously, I don't beleive a single minute that all that bluff is
possible. I'm in the business and I just know too well it's impossible.
There are only 2 things that piss me off with this show:
1. It gives a "tangible proof" to the uneducated public that all this
crap is possible so you quickly get requests from your customers to
hurry up because "they can do it on TV". They want you to design and
draw the working dwgs of their dream house in 24 hours.
2. The second biggest problem is when SWMBO watches the show and gives
me that disgusted look and says: "Gheeeez, they can build and furnish a
house in one week and it takes you months to complete a small piece of
I have never even heard of the show outside of here. I watch very little TV
but I know what you mean about distorting the public view. There are way to
many people that believe that TV represents reality.
On 5 May 2006 11:28:07 -0700, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Sure, it ain't no extreme makeover, but it didn't take a week either:
"If speed were all that mattered, how fast could you build a home?
Some years ago, the Building Industry Association of San Diego County
sponsored a competition among builders to answer that question. The
home had three bedrooms, two bathrooms, and was made from standard
The fastest time: 2 hours and 45 minutes. How do you build a house in
less than 3 hours? By forgetting everything you thought you knew about
building a house. The winning team used 700 people divided into
subgroups of carpenters, plumbers, electricians, and other
tradespeople. For weeks, the teams practiced to find ways to
accelerate the process. During the competition, the winners managed to
complete the rough plumbing in 8 minutes and set the main roof in just
over 9 minutes.
It was fun -- and the experience also generated useful insights. Which
is why Professor Tom Malone, of MIT's Sloan School of Management,
shows a video of the competition to his students and executive
audiences. "I use it to illustrate the power of speed," Malone says.
"Not just as a way of satisfying customers but of inventing whole new
industries. It helps people free up their minds to think about how to
build organizations for the 21st century."
Bill : >
Last year, when they occasionally ran an adjunct program called "Extreme
Makeover Home Edition. How'd They Do That?" I thought we were going to get
a little more insight into what goes on in the pre-planning stages of the
show. That show did focus a bit more on the construction than on the sob
story of the family, and we did see some behind-the-scenes stuff like the
fact that scenes such as the one where the design team shows up at the front
door with the bullhorn often have to be re-shot, but they never really got
away from the myth that all of the magic just materializes on day one. They
also have not done anything to dispell the myth that so many of the great
things that happen on the show are a result of Ty Pennington picking up his
cell phone and placing a call to "a friend." One somewhat surprising thing
I got from that show, however, is that it would appear that Ty really does
take a major role in the design and construction of his "secret project"
Unfortunately, "How'd They Do That?" is about as close as we're likely to
get to seeing what goes on behind the scenes. Anything more revealing than
that (i.e. how many months in advance the preliminary work begins, how they
apply for and receive a building permit in a small town without the word
getting out, how they arrange for a guy to take a week of vacation without
his boss spilling the beans, etc.) would be a little like pulling away the
curtain and revealing the true nature of the Wizard of Oz.
To e-mail, replace "bucketofspam" with "dleegordon"
I can only imagine that they sign their life away when they "apply" to have
their home made over, because having gotten most of the way through a major
home addition, my biggest question is how they get a building permit without
the city talking to the actual owner.
First thing they should do is shove that bullhorn up Ty's ass. Damn, he can
I'm sure many of us would be interested is the actual planning, seeing the
Gantt chart that was hanging in one of the trailers, etc. My guess is the
basic construction is a variation of existing plans that the company has
built many times in the past so they know the steps to be taken. Materials
are probably pre-cut and/or pre-fabed when possible. That would allow for
practice runs as that model is built 20 times in a development someplace to
check the feasibility of having three plumbers in the bathroom at the same
Last week the Hartford Courant had an article about the cop in Kansas that
got a new house. A year later, it is still "as seen on TV" but he is
appealing the $4000 property tax bill. These people end up with no
mortgage, but plenty of tax and utility costs.
We don't know that. The old house may have had a low rate mortgage with 20
years paid and a $100 payment. While I'd gladly pay the 4k taxes with no
mortgage, but, if you are disabled and have minimal income, it could be
difficult. Not to mention doubling of heating or AC, more labor to clean
Considering the house he has, the assessment is probably correct and he has
no gripe, but we just don't know.
Well, it's not like these people are chosen at random by flipping through
the phone book. They are (or should be) fully aware of the parameters
before putting their name in for consideration to be on the show. I suppose
if it's too much of a burden, they could always sell and use the proceeds to
buy a house they can afford.
... as opposed to the person who *does* have a mortgage. Plus plenty of
tax and utility costs.
Just because taxes may be rolled into a mortgage payment through an
escrow account doesn't mean the homeowner is not paying taxes. (I'm sure
that wasn't your point, it's just amazing how many people actually have
If you're gonna be dumb, you better be tough
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