How? By mandating reduced usage? By putting down a bet on sunbeams?
Virtually ALL of the imported oil goes to the transportation sector. The
ONLY way to reduce that importation is to grossly limit movement of people,
goods, and supplies.
No, it's not finite in the sense we're running out. Every year the known
reserves of petroleum increase.
Of the top 15 countries exporting oil to the U.S. (Canada, Mexico, Saudi
Arabia, Nigeria, Venezuela, Iraq, Angola, Algeria, etc.), only one
(Venezuela) can be said to be controlled by an unstable regime.
Um, respiratory issues true, but pollution today is lower than it ever has
been; certainly lower than in 1975, even lower than it was in 1850 London.
An argument can be made that advances in technology (powered by energy) now
allow those with respiratory problems, such as asthma, to lead lives of
chronic, but manageable, difficulty, but live nevertheless, rather than
dying off pretty quickly with an acute problem.
In addition, you're not going to produce much steel with a water-wheel or
donkeys trudging in a circle.
Huh? Are you saying that war is a BAD thing? That's just plain nuts. War, in
general, is a Good Thing (tm) - at least wars pursued by us.
Well, let's have some of these valid reasons, then.
Alternative fuel sources -- hydrogen highway, to cite but one
Until when? Are we making more?
No. So ... it's finite. Why must we run a nation in 365 day cycles.
Why not get ahead of a problem ... even once ... without throwing
blood and treasure at it?
I always wonder if the people who engage in this sort of tactic,
online, would do so at the corner coffee shop, face to face. I tend
to doubt it. It's cheap, and I'd surely call you on it.
Who sits on the largest % of the known oil reserves in the world?
Would it or would it not be reduced further with clean, renewable
energy sources, rather than huge reliance on fossil fuels??
'Nother manipulation/dodge on your part.
Hm. I'm skeptical that fossil fuels and wter wheels/donkeys are the
only two options. Nice black/white argument.
Sigh. You'll never see what you look away from.
Confirmation bias. It's rife on this ng.
It *seems* that what *you're* saying is that woodworkers (of which I
am one) are illogical, irrational, intellectually dishonest, and both
narrow- and closed- minded.
But that shouldn't be right.
If I've mis-interpreted, please elaborate.
SURELY you don't ALL think that Freud dado sets are incredible and
wonderful, but the only an absolute *idiot* would *ever* consider
using a Forrest Dado King.
Surely, there are those who like the PM66 and those who like the
Surely, there are those who like power tools, and the occasional
neanderthal who prefers old-world hand tools.
Surely this is NOT the monolithic group that you convey. In my time
as a woodworker, it's abundantly clear to me that this is a pursuit
that requires *great* mental agility, clear-thinking, and a logical
Confirmation bias* is an inherently evil and destructive thing.
So are the other dodges, argumentative tricks and manipulations, and
logical fallacies that are bandied about on this ng when ANY OT thread
comes up -- particularly in response to information or positions that
don't jibe with the popular ones, here.
Why not have a discussion directly and honestly ... about ... whatever
the topic is, provided you'd care to engage?
My take? Fear and insecurity.
People tend to be wildly uncomfortable with not knowing. THINKING
that they know, then, provides great comfort.
Whereas admitting credible information, and then considering it, is
just too unsettling for many people.
And that's a damned shame.
I *thrive* on valid and intelligent challenges to *my* beliefs.
WTF is the point of listening to a bunch of people who think as I
already do? I'm plenty intellectually secure. I don't need that
I think I erred, yesterday, in combining my bench top mortiser WITH my
router table for making my mortises. I used the 3/8" straight bit to
... snip of long diatribe detailing how the rest of us are a bunch of rubes
because we don't agree with his much more nuanced, intellectual position.
The fact that we have cited facts, pointed to documented intellectual
dishonesty on the part of researchers and other foundational elements
doesn't matter, we are all just reinforcing our biases.
i.e., if we all just agreed with his position, there would no longer be
evidence of confirmation bias in this group.
There is never a situation where having more rounds is a disadvantage
So, what have you made from wood lately?
The last thing I did was a bowl from a piece of box elder burl as a
Christmas gift for the family of a good friend of my 14 year old son.
My next project may be a large bookcase for my daughter's room.
We've seen them come and go, here on the wreck. Remember "The Man in
the Doorway" a few years back?
I don't recall who summed that one up, but the line was classic:
"There's someone filling a much needed gap."
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:27:08 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone
I recall tmitd (doesn't deserve caps) but don't recall the saying. I
_like_ it! I just wish everyone would stop replying to the trolls, no
matter how on-topic it might be. Most are just hot button presses and
don't need to be addressed.
I'd sleep better at night if only spamming, stupidity, and trolling
Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional.
and Possum(tm) Handy Pouches NOW AVAILABLE!
How does holding a different opinion constitute a troll.
In effect, you (pl) are saying that ... if you don't see the world in
the exact same way as "We" do, then you're a troll.
There IS no better proof for my point than that.
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