OT bad experience today

A dog here almost became filled with lead today, I was out in my yard with my 3 year old son, doing a little yard work. Luckily, my siter in law was close to my son when from around the garage came a pit bull at full charge. After my siter in law grabbed up my son the dog took off after another couple walking thier dog, it was then that I retrieved my .44 with every intention of dispatching that animal. The dog was still roaming as I was cleaning up our garden tools and I was ready. I saw the dog take off after another person walking his dog. I kept cleaning up and went in. I have not seen that dog before or again. But if that dog had come near my yard it would have been hauled off in a bag!

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Did you call police? Someone is going to have to deal with that dog.

Josie

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firstjois

From your story, it sounds like the dog did not attack anyone. I understand being prepared to defend yourself and others, but if it were my dog (unlikely since I keep mine inside always) and you killed him just because you thought that he was a danger, it would be you that "would have been hauled off in a bag!" A dog, like anyone else, doesn't deserve to be shot for what he MIGHT do!

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Joseph Connors

I see what you mean, But from my point of view (at the time) that dog was making a bee line at my child. When the dog was coming at him I did not have my gun. I think that if that other couple had not been there, the dogs attention would have still been on my son. My child was ushered into the house while I finished cleaning up. I had the gun for my protection at that point. I most certainly would not have shot the dog just for coming near my yard, it would have to have been showing aggression toward me.

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Searcher

I don't blame you for the way you feel. At all. But, "build a picket fence time"? Alex

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AAvK

I love dogs, but those pit-bulls are nasty creatures. I never understood why the people who own them seem to like to let them roam around loose all the time.

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Prometheus

It might be different where you are, but I had a neighbor about three years ago who had a pit-bull that they allowed to run free in the area. The thing actually had the gall to come right into my garage where I was working and start growling at me, until I ran the thing out with a shovel and got the door closed. There were numerous occasions like that, and the dog was always agressive. But when I called Animal control and the local PD, they said they couldn't do anything about it because it hadn't actually bit anyone yet.

The sad thing is- if a pit bull bites, it often needs to be killed to make it release it's grip, and they do huge amounts of physical damage to the person being bit, sometimes killing the person they attack. Waiting until they bite someone seems like a bad policy decision, IMO!

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Prometheus

Too bad! I'm in Virginia where there are leash laws for both dogs and if you would please believe it - cats. I can call animal control and have a dog picked up, most of the time I just call the owners and let them know "The dog is out, again." and they are happy to come and collect them. I have a 42" high fence and have seen German Shepherds jump over and small dogs crawl under.

I'm surprised that the dog didn't charge you daughter-in-law when she picked up the child. Somehow dogs and children in adult's arms seem to encourage aggressive dogs.

Anyway, waiting for the bite is a horrible policy!

Josie

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firstjois

If an aggressive pit bull comes charging at me, I'm not going to feel bad about killing it. If you own one, you have a responsibility to keep it safe. That does not include allowing it to run free.

I will defend myself... against man or beast... if I have to. Somebody else can wait to be chewed up. I won't.

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Mortimer Schnerd, RN

Should have locked it IN the garage with the car running!

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Rudy

Prometheus wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

The owners who don't train them properly and let them run loose are the nasty creatures. The dogs are dogs and every dog is a bite threat.

Shoot the owners!

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Lobby Dosser

Josie responds:

In some areas. There is NO leash law in Bedford County.

I don't have kids to worry about, but I do have a small dog. Any dog that attacks me, my wife, my dog, or behaves, in my judgment, with excessive aggression is apt to become detached from its head via machete. The law doesn't like it, but we're not getting torn up to improve the mood of a Commonwealth's Attorney (DA in less pretentious areas).

Charlie Self "Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles." Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

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Charlie Self

We look forward to tomorrow's installment.

UA100

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Unisaw A100

It's time to call up BARK (Brotherhood of All Restaurants Korean) and petition them to look into this situation.

We had a similar problem with marauding felines and made one phone call to CAT (Chinese-Asian-Thai restaurant group).

They sent out a SWAT (Small Wild Animals Tasty) Team and we haven't heard so much as a meow in months.

(If there is anyone who has not been offended by this post, please forward your name and ethnicity via email, and an every attempt will be made to insult you personally.)

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Tom Watson

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 05:25:02 GMT, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" calmly ranted:

Amen to that. I'm not sure which is more aggressive, loose dog owners or their loose dogs. I'll tolerate neither in my yard, TYVM.

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Larry Jaques

On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 08:12:30 -0400, Tom Watson calmly ranted:

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Larry Jaques

I was raised in the country, where your dog on my land was *my* dog, subject to whatever penalties I felt like imposing for his trespass .... and in the case of harming my livestock or property, that was usually being shot forthwith.

I had my right hand completely bitten through by a pit bull some years back when rescuing a three year old boy who had somehow gotten into the middle of the pit bull's fight with a German shepherd. Once the pit bull grabbed my hand the dog fight was over, but damn if he didn't bite me on the other hand during the next few minutes of me struggling to get my right hand from those jaws (around here, they typically grab them by the balls to make them open their mouths, but I didn't have enough hands left to try that).

I am generally of a live and let live philosophy on most issues, but to me there is no reason a sane individual would own one of these dogs, particularly in an urban environment. They are anti-social assault weapons, and no other animal, child, or human is ultimately safe around one, except for the owner.

To let one run loose in an urban situation, even accidentally, is akin to assault with a deadly weapon and should be treated as such.

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Swingman

Prairie Oysters?

Regards, Tom.

"People funny. Life a funny thing." Sonny Liston

Thomas J.Watson - Cabinetmaker (ret.) tjwatson1ATcomcastDOTnet (real email)

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Tom Watson

More like 'Hood Oysters these days.

Still cleaning the monitor re your BARK, CAT and SWAT ... along that same line see the following thread earlier this year:

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Swingman

To make the bald statement that "...those pit-bulls are nasty creatures..." is wrong.

However, I can sympathize with this view having once lived in Denver for several years. Now Colorado is a wonderful place, but one that attracts some unique "individuals" who live in the country for good reason--they don't belong around people. This type, along with drug dealers and gang lords, fancy having the meanest creatures around. A pit bull is an awesome, and beautiful, physical specimens that, along with many breeds, can be made into deadly weapons (If you have the stomach you might do a little reaserch to find out what this takes). The upshot of this is that several of these individuals owned pit bulls that were trained to be aggressive, let to run free, and did some horrendous things to people, including children. The Denver newspapers played the horror up to the hilt, underplaying the less interesting fact that irresponsible oweners, and breeders, are responsible. Denver then enacted a law that banned the breed. In my ignorance I agreed with the law at the time. (Colorado has very recently passed a law making it illegal to ban dogs based on breed alone, and Denver is fighting it. )

Several years after leaving CO for the Chicago suburbs, my adult daughter was living with us and fell in love with a dog at a local humane society. It was a pitt bull. Crunch time. I began a program to educate myself on the breed. The library and the internet turned up a number of very enlighening articles that made me open to the idea. The clincher was a neighbor who owns a large, well known dog training school. She, an owner of three golden retrievers, proclaimed that pit bulls were among her favorite dogs, and make wonderful pets.

We adoped Mo. By the time my daughter moved out we decided that we could not be without a dog. We now have two pit bulls. The first was bought from a breeder and the second was rescued (a Chicago cop "took " her from a drug dealer as a young puppy). Our dogs have been trained, loved, walked daily, and in five years have never bitten any person, any other animal, or our cats. We aren't unique in having great pit bulls. Most of them are cherished family pets, and they have served our country in war, and have been owned by individuals such as Helen Keller and Theodore Roosevelt.

It is smart to be cautious about any dog. Large, athletic breeds especially can do damage if they have been trained to do so. The most popular breeds tend to be overbred and thereby create some nasty animals. Remember Cocker Spaniels of 10-20 years ago, and now, I fear, Labs are suffering from this. But do advocate responsible ownership and don't make the mistake of condeming a dog based on breed alone.

Now the original poster, apparently distraught at not being able to use his ".44" in what is apparently a suburban neighborhood, unwittingly presents an argument for gun control. But that's another OT for this group.

Jay

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Jay Knepper

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