O/T What are the real truths? What is happening right under our nose?

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" I seriously doubt Exxon is paying $30B income tax on $40B net."
30/40 = 75%
But, what I didn't take into account until I saw some financial tables spelling this stuff out was that their profit was 72B - minus 30B taxes. The tax rate is on the 72B, not the 40B remaining after taxes. THAT was my error.
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Renata wrote:

You do understand the difference between net and gross, right?
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On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:37:21 -0700, Mark & Juanita

Nah. Why doncha 'splain it...
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I guess that means no.
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The effective income tax rate is tax expense divided by income before taxes.
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Not true.
U.S. companies are typically at around 41% (35% federal and 7-8% state, less federal deduction for state taxes).
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Sorry, Fred ... I thought you said "electrocute".
Still ...
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wrote in message news:...

ROTFL ...good on you, bubba!
... ya gotta luv it when someone "gets it"!
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<major snippage> I am amazed that the general run of conversation of this (and the first) thread has been on the oil/fuel situation and not about the atrocities perpetrated on the USA (and the world). The fact every war since the Spanish/American war has been started for the financial gain of the already super rich through false premises! There is so much evidence about Pearl Harbor and 911 in particular that should invoke a grass roots wave of the public demanding an open investigation by non-governmental specialists that are aware and non predjucial. I for one am of the opinion that we need to start with a new system ( the old one has been corrupted to the point of uselessness) Tom
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Tom Bunetta wrote:

Lemme guess, Pearl Harbor was not attacked by the Japanese but by the Death Star under the command of Darth Stimson.

I agree. The system under which nutcakes were locked up was a much better one.
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<snippage>> Lemme guess, Pearl Harbor was not attacked by the Japanese but by the

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ watch the movie(s)

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Tom Bunetta wrote:

Oh no, not another truther.
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Oh no...not another proponent of 'eat what's put in front of you'! If you want to swallow whole-hog what this reliable administration has shovelled onto your plate, by all means, have a nice lunch. There is plenty evidence that the Bush administration has lied about a lot of things...as much as any other administration... or more. I think you are being unfair when you expect people to ignore possibilities OTHER than what's being spoon-fed by the administration. It is OK to ask questions. To try to muzzle people who ask questions, will seed the beginnings of yet another dictatorship. Mark, stop trying to muzzle/belittle people who have a legitimate reason to challenge to honesty of the spin doctors from Washington.
The reason the current administration has been able to take away freedoms, at the rate that they have, is because there are too many people like you.
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Oh no...not another proponent of 'eat what's put in front of you'! If you want to swallow whole-hog what this reliable administration has shovelled onto your plate, by all means, have a nice lunch. There is plenty evidence that the Bush administration has lied about a lot of things...as much as any other administration... or more. I think you are being unfair when you expect people to ignore possibilities OTHER than what's being spoon-fed by the administration. It is OK to ask questions. To try to muzzle people who ask questions, will seed the beginnings of yet another dictatorship. Mark, stop trying to muzzle/belittle people who have a legitimate reason to challenge to honesty of the spin doctors from Washington.
The reason the current administration has been able to take away freedoms, at the rate that they have, is because there are too many people like you.
NO, NO, NO. Here's the REAL reason; this just sent to me tonight. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid340274697167011147&q=&hl=en . Stock up on food and ammo! Or, it could be Les is just selling his book.
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Dave in Houston wrote:

Huh? First of all, how in the world is simply pointing out stupidity trying to muzzle someone? Belittle? I'm sorry, you may have some complaints about the current administration and its policies -- that's part of living in a free society -- but if you actually believe that the current administration actually engineered and carried out the 9/11 attacks, in the process killing almost 3000 people and destroying the twin towers, you deserve nothing *but* ridicule. The whole concept is absolutely absurd and deserves nothing but derision and laughter. Too much effort to debunk this laughable conspiracy theory has already been expended, continuing to expend more effort when someone comes up with yet another "but what about... did you consider ... " comment to further dig in is just not worth it.

Please enumerate the freedoms that *you* personally have lost from this current administration. Aside from the laughable and irritating TSA nonsense (that was mostly pushed by congress critters).
Now, contrast that with the real losses in freedoms that have been pushed by regulators in pursuit of stopping global warming or advancing other such agendas.
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Where, in the above paragraph do I say that I believe the WTC disaster was an inside job? My blurb is about the right to ask questions.

HOW did you get from my statement: " it is OK to ask questions" to:
(your statement) "but if you actually believe that the current administration actually engineered and carried out the 9/11 attacks, in the process killing almost 3000 people and destroying the twin towers, you deserve nothing *but* ridicule."
You are putting words in my mouth.
The fact that I think it is prudent to ask questions, does NOT automatically mean that I bolt onto the nutbars who believe that Bush blew up the WTC out of anger because he was pissed off by the interruption of the love triangle between him and Janet Reno and Condy Rice.
To blindly swallow the Administration's 'approved' bullshit, makes you somewhat similar to a party-follower from the 1930's Germany. (May I remind you how well that ended?)
The rest of reply to me is nothing but a collection of red herrings and straw-men. DO try to stay on topic.
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Robatoy wrote:

I think the point where you berated me for trying to "muzzle people who ask questions" and "Stop trying to muzzle/belittle people who have a legitimate reason to challenge the honesty of the spin doctors from Washington" when I was replying to someone who was trying to blame Bush and Cheney for engineering the 9/11 attack might have led me to that conclusion. Ya think? No putting words in your mouth, just using the words you used relative to my reply to a troofer.

Well, that was the subject of the post I was replying to. Do try to keep up.
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Jose Padilla was held incommunicado, without being charged with a crime, for four years. This administration even transferred him from one Federal District to another to stall his habeus petition by sending it back to a lower court.
Since you insist on a completely amoral and selfish reason, I remind you of the wisdom that if you wait until you personally are targeted it will be too late? For myself, I will stick to demanding respect for fundamental human rights regardless of the accusation any government makes against that person.
Consider the fallacy that the Great Writ of habeus Corpus doe not apply to aliens or can be suspended by the Congress other than in the event of invasion or insurrection If that becomes accepted. If so, any citizen may be denied a hearing top demand that the government show cause to hold through the simple subterfuge of accusing him of being a non-citizen.
A government that does not respect the fundamental rights of human beings as a matter of principle, will not respect the rights of its citizens either.

Your freedom to swing your fist always stopped at my nose.
Your freedom to soil your own nest stops when it spills over to my nest.
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