O/T - This could spark some discussion

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entitled: "Why work when I can get =A342,000 in benefits a year AND drive a Mercedes?"

For reference,

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says that =A342,000 is just over $65,000 in US dollars.

Who knows if Mail Online is a legit paper or not? Foreign newspapers all seem like the National Enquirer to me...

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busbus
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Yikes. I don't know how anyone can think that their behaviour is ethical.

Couple of points:

About 20% of their income (carer's allowance and disability living allowance) is because one of their children has a skin disease.

The "council tax benefit" appears to be a tax break rather than real income.

Chris

Reply to
Chris Friesen

As I've stated a number of times, we generally follow the UK about 5 to

10 years when it comes to social and cultural issues.

Thanks to congress, and an ill-informed, under-educated electorate, we are right track.

Reply to
Swingman

Not really. We are 62 years behind on health care. Never nationalized the railroads and so never privatized them. Don't have national bans on firearms. Still have the death penalty. Etc.>

Reply to
LDosser

If that's an off-shoot of the "London Daily Mail", The "Mail" is one of London's more notorious tabloids. Yes, "real" news, but it concentrates on scandelmongerng, and stories to outrage/offend the general sensibilities.

_Much_ more "fact-based" than the cr*p that runs in the National Enquirer, etc., but targeting much the same market. One of the other London tabloids, "The Sun" has a standard feature every day, a picture of an attractive female, topless (and sometimes less), on 'page 3'. This goes a long ways towards 'defining' the audience those papers cater to.

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Robert Bonomi

Yes really. Unless you've lived and worked in the UK for some length of time over a 45 year span, it is unlikely that you would have sufficient perspective to recognize the dwindling differences and the growing similarities.

The increasing, everyday, 'nanny state' pervasiveness, and all that it entails (from privacy issues, to government intervention in every aspect of life) that has been rearing it's head here in the last thirty years roughly parallels that level of social phenomenon in the UK some 40 years ago.

Cherry picking a few high profile issues from the web won't debunk the observation.

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Swingman

I was born in the UK, spent three years stationed in England and have rellies out the wazoo living there.

We're not even close.

So, give an example.

Reply to
LDosser

So? I was married to a British subject for 15 years, lived in the UK for a good part of that time and worked, on the local economy, WITHOUT the benefit of a US government "stationed there" salary, and also have numerous relatives there, including a daughter and two grandsons.

So, now that you started this little pissing contest, tell us exactly what makes you think your experience trumps mine, eh?

In ten more years, or less, at the current rate.

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Swingman

Did I say that?

This was your claim:

So, got a good example?

Reply to
LDosser

An excellent article against "entitlements" and *for* birth control. Judas priest, nine, count 'em nine, people sucking off the public tit and another one on the way!!!!!

IMO, entitlements and tax deductions and credits should *decline* with more kids, too many people in the world now without encouraging more.

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dadiOH

It succeeded.

Reply to
dadiOH

You tried to with your "not really", but it didn't work. You don't get perspective by simply being born somewhere, or being "stationed there".

How about Sharia law adoption for starters? See how we fare here in another ten years. Add ubiquitous surveillance cameras, about 1 for every 14 people in England about ten years ago and rapidly growing here. How about DNA databases of citizens? England already has the largest per capita DNA database in the world, see how long it takes for us to do the same. Hell, you can even go back to the Beatles shaping of our youth culture, or TV programs like The Office, or American Idol, which are only a couple of countless spin-offs of a British programs which did not become popular until they succeeded in the UK.

So, "yes really".

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Swingman

No, that's what You read into it.

I wasn't just born there, I spent a large part of my childhood there. Right across the Nationalization, NTM Rationing.

And I am deeply connected. My Sister, my parents, before they died, inumerable, aunts, uncles and cousins.

How about an Example, not a prediction? And not inconsequential stuff like the Beatles and TV shows. National Health Care, Nationalization of Railways and Airlines, ban on firearms, ban on death penalty. Something of consequence.

Reply to
LDosser

Nothing else needs be said, than the above exchange, to illustrate your caviling nonsense.

Pity ...

Reply to
Swingman

IOW, you have NO examples. The inconsequential flows both ways.

Reply to
LDosser

The Mail is a right-leaning tabloid aimed at a lower-middle-class readership. They have been known to target celebrities in unwise ways resulting in public protests and successful libel lawsuits. The Mail regularly features stories intended to raise the blood pressure of taxpayers, e.g. welfare bums, immigrant welfare bums, unpunished criminals etc. However that doesn't mean higher blood pressure isn't a valid response to some of the stories--Britain seems to have lost its mind in some respects.

In this case I'd say daddy should be given 90 days to find a job or see his benefits cut.

Reply to
DGDevin

Holy paranoia Batman.

At times it's hard to tell if you're just a regular goofball or a cunning Usenet satirist mocking the beliefs you seem to defend.

Either way you are one funny dude, dude.

Reply to
DGDevin

Swingman specializes in the absurd (he regards one-man, one-vote as a regrettable policy) so don't take his bloviating too seriously.

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DGDevin

IOW, You demonstrably wouldn't recognize an example if bit you on the ass.

Reply to
Swingman

Nice display of both your ass and your ignorance there, "dude"...

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Swingman

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