I'm not at all confused but you are being overly pedantic. The economy is not sound; it has been distorted by those greedy bastards that are looking for a bail out today.
Also, your use of the words "Marxist" and "communist" and "liberal" is incorrect and contradictory.
The economy did NOT get distorted today, because the Republicans finally got something right and blocked the bailout.
All three terms - as commonly used to describe some point of view - live on the exact same continuum. They are degrees of the same pestilence...
That's just glib. You know better than that.
All three are forms of collectivism in which the power of the group is used to take away from the individual. They are - all three of them - variations of the same mindset implemented in varying degrees.
So now you're suggesting that climate change is an "imaginary bugaboo"? And what is wrong with meeting "Chavez, Ahmadinejad, Castro, Hezbolla, and Hamas"? Is that not a good thing? Name me a President or Presidential candidate who did not meet with questionable people at some stage in their candidacy or term of office.
This is a ridiculous over-simplification - kind of like suggesting that all Republicans are Fascists.
It is an entirely accurate taxonomy. I'm sorry it hurts your feelings, but this is what you are supporting.
Most Republicans are also collectivists at some level.
Oh, some level of warming is inarguably happening. However, claiming (without proof) it is: a) Manmade, b) Can be fixed by man, and c) Demonstrably bad for mankind is the bugaboo.
They are evil despots and/or tin pot dictators. The only "meeting" with them should be, a) To warn them of what happens if they don't knock of their vile behavior and b) A "meeting" with out military as appropriate, and, finally, c) A meeting to accept their absolute acquiescence to our terms.
It is true that FDR met with Stalin .. then again FDR was a socialist so far left that he had little to distinguish himself from full blown communism.
You'll note that Truman didn't even show up to accept Japan's surrender (or Germany's for that matter). Kennedy never met with Castro as best I can recall, and so forth.
Yes, there are counterexamples, and I stipulate that meeting with the bad guys is sometimes (rarely) a good thing. But Comrade Obama has made it clear he'd meet with the aforementioned murderous slime
*without preconditions*. Like I keep saying, he is the worst kind of political vermin. It is astonishing he has any traction at all in this election let alone a credible chance of winning. It demonstrates what incredible short term vision and attention the voters have, nothing more.
Yeah, and more than likely, the wrong people are going to get blamed and punished for whatever happens.
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The Koolaid is strong in this one. Nothing to be done here, this one is beyond saving. Reality is going to hit hard; people said the same kinds of things about Josef and Vladimer.
RE: Subject
Still remember my father's words:
"If you can prove to the GD banks that you don't need the money, then the SOB's will loan you all the money you want."
Made life a bitch for a lot of people, but it kept the banks in business.
Seems like the financial industry forgot who brought them to the dance.
Lew
RE: Subject
Wonder how much farther the stock market has to drop before Congress gets it's act together?
Today it was about $1,000,000,000,000.
Sometimes Congress gets paid to make unpopular decisions. This appears to be one of those times.
Lew
"Lew Hodgett" wrote
Let me propose something that you won't hear on Wall Street or Capital Hill:
The absolute proof of something's true worth is how quickly it loses its value.
Demonstrably bad for mankind is the bugaboo.
You might also mention that in the name of global warming remediation the UN is promoting the largest global redistribution of wealth in the history of mankind.
c) Demonstrably bad for mankind is the bugaboo.
If I send out 2 bags of garbage each week, and Joe Schlebotnik, next door, sends 60 bags of garbage each week, week after week, year after year, I think it would be fair if he paid higher garbage taxes than I.
If one takes a look at the finite abilities of mother earth to give us fossil fuels, and finite space to dump our garbage, those who use and waste the most, should pay the most. I would have NO problem with the adjustment of gasoline prices, dependent on whether it gets poured into an average person's car or some fat-cat's gas-guzzling pleasure boat. Charge twice as much for health insurance from those who are smokers. If you're going to screw with the machinery, you should pay for the repairs. And that holds true on all levels. And while we're at it, why keep paying for all those jails? Move them into tents along that new railroad they need to be building for us. A whole new web of railroads. High speed and sturdy branch lines. Electrified with well-placed nukes. Get them damned trucks off the roads.
Replace Palin with Ron Paul.
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Demonstrably bad for mankind is the bugaboo.
I thought we were dong pretty well at that ourselves, transferring many, many, many bucks to the Middle East and most of the rest to China so our pets, and many of their own people, can have enough melamine to ingest.
We are in dire need of another Republican President. After all, the country isn't QUITE bankrupt yet, though Bush has worked hard at it.
d c) Demonstrably bad for mankind is the bugaboo.
Bush is just trying to scare the US people into letting him raid the coffers prior to his departure. Just one more favour for his big business buddies.
You have failed to prove your first statement. It doesn't hurt my feeling at all. After all, I am a liberal in the real sense of the word.
Some of my best friends are Republicans. Our arguments usually start when they start to declare their sense of entitlement
Now, now, cut'em some slack. You have to make allowances for the fact that politicians are the worlds biggest egos wrapped up in sacks of bombast :-).
Demonstrably bad for mankind is the bugaboo.
So Joe's neighbor looks over the fence and say's "hey, I want what he's got" and since Joe's watchdog helped to take much of what Joe has away and push it over the fence, he'll certainly end up with it. Joe's watchdog also made Joe put a precipitator on his chimney, devices on his wagon, and generally made Joe become a better citizen. However, his neighbor is projected to take Joe's place as the major producer of garbage in the future, and Joe's neighbor has no watchdog and does not intend to do anything and is certainly not doing anything now to reduce the production of garbage.
"One hundred thirty-seven (137) developing countries have ratified the protocol, including Brazil, China and India, but have no obligation beyond monitoring and reporting emissions."
Country Change in greenhouse gas Emissions (1990-2004) US +15.8% Russian Federation -32% China +47% India +55%
It is widely believed by many experts that the Kyoto protocol will due almost nothing to reduce global warming, but will cause an accelerated shift of economic power from developed nations to developing nations.
Most of the insurance in the U. S. is not insurance, it is employer based self insured health coverage. The employer picks up the tab, has a third party administrator who, for a very small fee, processes the claims and qualifies the providers. In most large concerns the cost sharing ratio is about 80/20 employer/employee
Because of the most recent HIPPA laws, it is not legal for an employer to even know anything about those that he is paying health care coverage for. For instance, if I look at my roster and see that old joe up there has a heart condition and I use that information to try to get him into a smoking cessation and exercise program, which I would pay for as an employer, I can be sued for same.
I'm encouraged that a few employers are actually trying a graduated premium system based on lifestyle issues such as smoking, but feel it wil be a long drawn out affair because of HIPPA and will depend on the outcome of the inevitable legal events. What is more likely to happen is what is already happening, that is, employers will continue to eliminate health care as a benefit.
ACLU will be estatic with the increased activity they will see.
Frank
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