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Take your choice:
Floods in the south east, especially around Atlanta or Another wild fire in SoCal.
8,500 acres, less than 6% relative humidity, 6,000 firefighters.
Fortunately no deaths here in SoCal, unlike the SE.
Either way, Mother Nature can be a bitch.
Take care of yourself out there.
Lew
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Lew Hodgett wrote:

The president gets up before the UN and talks about the global warming and the mid section of his country is experiencing the coldest summer in over 100 years. Talks about global warming caused drought, and the southeastern part of his country is under several feet of water.
Maybe it is in the virtual world of his computer. I wish he would get off of his computer and look at the 90% of the country he represents.
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A significant contribution to global warming is all the hot air from polititians and their "global warming" contributors that will make untold profits from this latest scam. Apparently the reason that the Arctic is loosing glaciers is because they are melting from the "ground side/bottom" Greenland, not far from that region is virtually a hot bed of under ground volcanic like activity that normally takes place on the ocean floor but comes to the surface there. If there were not a way to make major money off of global warming you would not hear another word on the subject.
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Leon wrote:

If you mean the "government" makes money, I'd agree. Obsequence to the global warming god costs the rest of us.
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Come on. Now more than ever, government makes money the old fashioned way; they print it.
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snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

Well, yeah. When you're right, you're right. I stand corrected.
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While one must be sceptical of the pronouncments of James Hansen (a demogogue as much as a scientist), one must also not confuse weather with climate.
scott
(While climate change is a certainty, _anthropogenic_ climate change is still a theory, with little science supporting it).
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Scott Lurndal wrote:

In science, "theory" is virtually fact, as in The Theory of Universal Gravitation or the Theory of Electricity or the Theory of Evolution. With about 1% more certainty, a scientific "theory" can get promoted to "Law" as in the Law of Conservation of Energy or Law of Thermodynamics.
In vulgar usage, "theory" means conjecture, guess, hypothesis, possibility.
That's why when a religious person says: "Evolution is a theory!" and the scientist replies, "Uh, yeah, that's right," they are using the same word to mean two different things.
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Thanks for the lesson.
You are in danger of surpassing Doug Miller as the wreck's most tiresome pedant.
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Elrond Hubbard wrote:

Thanks for the kind words of encouragement. I only need 1% more...
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: Scott Lurndal wrote: :> :> (While climate change is a certainty, _anthropogenic_ climate change :> is still a theory, with little science supporting it). : In science, "theory" is virtually fact, as in The Theory of Universal : Gravitation or the Theory of Electricity or the Theory of Evolution. With : about 1% more certainty, a scientific "theory" can get promoted to "Law" as : in the Law of Conservation of Energy or Law of Thermodynamics.
    No.
: In vulgar usage, "theory" means conjecture, guess, hypothesis, possibility.
    More like "unsubstantiated wild-assed guess". At least as the right     wingers use the term.
: That's why when a religious person says: "Evolution is a theory!" and the : scientist replies, "Uh, yeah, that's right," they are using the same word to : mean two different things.
    That's correct, unfortunately.
    -- Andy Barss
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Andrew Barss wrote:

To what, specifically, are you taking exception?

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J. Clarke wrote:

I object to the use of the word "theory" in a scientific context when what is meant is "conjecture."
Anthropomorphic climate change is a wild-ass guess, not a scientific theory.
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HeyBub wrote:

That would be "hypothesis"...
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HeyBub wrote:

If you read the attributions above and apply a modicum of logic it should occur to you that I was asking Andrew Barss to what, specifically, his "no" above referred since it was not clear from context. I fail to see how _your_ telling me to what _you_ object sheds any light on the matter of what, specifically, _he_ was questioning.
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J. Clarke wrote:

It's called (using scientific terminology here) The Buttinsky Paradox.
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True enough. Or whether the warming or cooling is part of a long term trend or not. Or whether humans are causing it.

But therein lies the problem. Whether those things are occurring or not is a scientific question, not a political one. If a right wing fascist bastard says it is happening (or not), is that a better answer than if a left wing socialist bastard says so? I hope not.
What to do about it, if anything, is a political question. But not whether it is happening. It is a damn shame that the left and right have polarized on that issue. That is not a route to the truth, whatever the truth may be.
-- Doug
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Douglas Johnson wrote:

The question may be scientific, but the answers we are guiding our economic lives by have been political.

Yeah, and taking drastic measures to change something that you don't even know is happening, or the opposite is happening, or much of anything is happening is political, left wing, socialist bastard political. Seems the political goal is to stifle the wildly successful capitalist economy of the US.

It's just part of life when you suffer with a left wing controlled media. Their constant lies and left wing propaganda might destroy them as about no one believes a word they say anymore. There could be a light at the end of the tunnel, or it could be the socialist propaganda train coming to stomp all over free speech.
--
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:33:37 -0400, Keith Nuttle

I am disbelieving more and more what he says. Sun spots and solar flares can effect our climate/weather in short order and there's not much we can do about it. It's not "Global Warming" anymore, it's "Global Change." "Change we can believe in." He wins the Presidential Award for Fiscal Irresponsibility.
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