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Tom Watson said:

I think she ... oh never mind... :~)

Tried that once - arrogant bastards. They weren't too bright - so much for that expensive Emory education.
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Robatoy said:

Pretty, smart, and a good heart - all definite requirements. Nothing more repulsive than a shallow, mean spirited yet physically attractive woman. To me, anyway. As rare as golden eggs and a thousand fold as valuable. Only married one, however, the proverbial high school sweetheart - not pictured as most everything before 1987 was burned by a collusive lawyer and doctor. The ex's Dad wouldn't leave her alone. And boy was that a long time ago. Seems things always got in the way of the others - crazy relatives or ex-husbands, distance, and lawyers. But those truly represent the best the US had to offer - from NYC, NC, Baltimore, Chicago, to LA. Tried to keep up with most, but they get married and drift away over time. Now just a lonely old misanthropic curmudgeon. Boo Hoo. I should go back to writing bad lyrics.
As for your score - good on you. Go ahead and brag. Hope you don't end up buying any more houses. Choose well, and treat her well. I chose poorly and paid a significant price that effected all since.
Man, I'm glad women don't frequent this group. I'd have burning crosses in the front yard and bags of poo on the door step.
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Greg G. wrote:

Would vehemently disagree with that assertion depending upon the meaning of the word "unbridled". History also disagrees with that assertion. The most prosperous and free countries have been those with as close to a free market as possible.
On the other hand, bloated ineffectual, or bloated effective (read intrusive) bureaucracies have done more to destroy and ruin nations' ability to live well, and pose the most significant threat to a people's freedom and ability to prosper and do well than most any other influence. Again, historical examples abound: The Soviet Union, Cuba, China, and others.

Maybe not, but the following statement: “So,” said Al Gore at the recent Bali, Indonesia, conference on global warming, “I am going to speak an inconvenient truth. My own country, the United States, is principally responsible for obstructing progress here in Bali. We all know that.”
Certainly falls into that category.

Yet there are massive deposits of energy yet unused: Oil shale in the west, Anwar in the north, coal deposits throughout the west. Oil and natural gas off the coasts of California and Florida. While we don't drill, the Chinese have started drilling off the coast of Cuba.
... snip

On that, we both agree. But I'm going to have a big ol' generator on the other side of my island to light my shop at night and power the tools. :-)
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Mark & Juanita said:

By accountability, I mean not selling dangerous products as consumer goods, products that meet documented standards of safety, fair and honest banking practices, not looting retirement accounts of the elderly. Social responsibility, as opposed to every man for himself. That sort of thing. Avarice run amok is not a good thing. And without oversight, it seems to be the norm for human behavior.

China seems to be doing pretty well at the moment - for some... Seriously though, there are several Scandinavian countries whose standards of living and health care surpass our own. The Soviets were done in by graft, corruption, and lack of performance rewards more so than an inherent flaw in the concept of the evil dreaded socialism. We're not doing too well in that regard these days, either. The aforementioned Scandinavian countries have taken the best of both idiologies and melded them into a workable solution that apparently satifies the needs of the majority of their population. Perfect? What is? (Except our woodworking, of course.)

Not part of the speech, so I haven't heard that. And I have no idea what progress he alludes our interference with. But by the same token, our involvement in most foreign countries since WWII mirrors our own interests more so than the indigenous population's.

This is according to _some_ surveys. It ain't energy till it's delivered. Cost of shale processing is high. Coal is nasty stuff without scrubbers. And if China is drilling for gas in the Caribbean, then we better get in there because it's contiguous. They're stealing our gas. :-o
Eventually, and sooner than we would like to think, it will run out, and the last percentages will be expensive to acquire. Your grandchildren's children could well be left in the dark unless born into the aristocracy. Unless we find a way to break the H2O bond, or come up with non harmful waste producing fusion or "anti-matter" (Yeah, it's a Star Trek pipe-dream reference) reactors, it _can_ happen here.

The beauty of geothermal/wave/hydroelectric generators is that you don't need to pipe in fuel or pay an energy company; only the heat and mass of the sun, the ocean, and the earth. It IS totally renewable (except for the geothermal), non-polluting, and there is plenty of power there to run the shop 24/7. Just not 300 million shops. I personally want off the grid, and free from dependence on energy companies - particularly those who attempt manipulation of the markets for profiteering purposes. I don't care for being a cog in a machine which profits others more than I.
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Which of course, is what made the comment apropos.
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Fred the Red Shirt said:

Yes, but inadvertently, I believe. Note the spelling of AlGore - a common "right-wing" blogger slight.
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Greg G. wrote:

Pun on the name of a star and ties into AlGoreRythm, which one would have had to know something about to "create the Internet".
Regardless of what you want to believe, he shot himself in the foot with that claim. If he's that careless with his words he has no business in the Oval Office.
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J. Clarke said:

I don't "want" to believe anything. I believe in provable facts. I think he is affable and reasonably intelligent - for a politico. It is also my understanding that he has no intention of running. Of course, as with Thompson, this may change at the last minute. Six of one to me either way. I have little to no faith in _any_ of them actually accomplishing a damned thing useful. The infighting and sparring between parties is costing taxpayers and this country dearly. It should not be the goal of candidates to please party followers, but to do what is best for the people and future of this country - whether they like it or not. That goal has long been abandoned. Poll riding, coin operated mouthpieces we certainly don't need.
And while what you say may true, how does one explain the presence of the current resident. OMG! You could write a tome on his "Bushisms".
Gore, by no stretch of the imagination has a corner on the market of verbal faux pas. My, what selective and short memories we all have.
How about "Eighty percent of pollution comes from trees and other vegetation" Reagan.
Or these: Our military is absolutely incapable of defending this country. A nuclear missile once launched could always be recalled. (Trident) We were told four years ago that 17 million people went to bed hungry every night. Well, that was probably true. They were all on a diet. Fascism was really the basis for the New Deal.
And then, of course, there is "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Clinton. I don't give a rat's ass if he did, but lying about it nailed his integrity. Was it worth Starr spending 6.2+ million in your money proving it? Not a chance. More pointless infighting at your expense. I was more concerned with shady contributions and military secrets leaked to the Koreans and Chinese. And Bush, Sr.'s NAFTA, which Clinton ratified.
One month in office entitles them to lifetime healthcare, retirement, and security benefits. When is the last time YOU got a perk like that? If you or I performed as poorly on the job as these clowns, we would all be unemployed. And so should they.
It seems where ever there are people, someone takes it upon themselves to foist an ineffectual government of self-serving slackers upon them. So excuse the rant, I've got to decide where I'm moving to next...
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[snipferized for brevitisation]

Some Humans Ain't Human
Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm
Some humans ain't human Some people ain't kind You open up their hearts And here's what you'll find A few frozen pizzas Some ice cubes with hair A broken Popsicle You don't want to go there
Some humans ain't human Though they walk like we do They live and they breathe Just to turn the old screw They screw you when you're sleeping They try to screw you blind Some humans ain't human Some people ain't kind
You might go to church And sit down in a pew Those humans who ain't human Could be sittin' right next to you They talk about your family They talk about your clothes When they don't know their own ass From their own elbows
Jealousy and stupidity Don't equal harmony Jealousy and stupidity Don't equal harmony
Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm
Have you ever noticed When you're feeling really good There's always a pigeon That'll come shit on your hood
Or you're feeling your freedom And the world's off your back Some cowboy from Texas Starts his own war in Iraq
Some humans ain't human Some people ain't kind They lie through their teeth With their head up their behind You open up their hearts And here's what you'll find Some humans ain't human Some people ain't kind
Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm Mmmm
(John Prine)
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Under Starr the OIC put a score of corrupt politicians and their cohorts into jail, including Gov Tucker of Arkansas who went straight from the Governor's mansion to the big house. Money well spent, IMHO.
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'Pay for our sins to keep out Lords in Animal Skins. Pay for our acts to keep out Lords in white cadillacs."
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Deep Thoughts Some people are worthless, kinda like a slinky, but you still can't help but smile when you push'em down the stairs. ross
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Greg G. wrote:

Breathe.
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J. Clarke said:

;-)
It doesn't help, John - the air is so dirty here it makes you cough. I need to go find a nice, innocent nubile waif to fun away with. To hell with the lot of 'em. Throw up a shotgun shack on the edge of a National Forest and shoot any damned revenuer that shows up. YeeHaw! And BTW, don't get me started on the complicit SOB's at Riveredge IBM. Sycophants come in all shapes and flavours. Not that you would know anything about that... :-o
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Greg G. said:

Seriously, I really meant that you wouldn't. But it sounded odd...
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:15:32 -0500, "J. Clarke"

Snip.....
Mark (sixoneeight) = 618
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He never said that... He just invented the AlGore-ithm for it.
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Robatoy wrote:

I'm still puzzling over the Fuckometer. Does it mean that I don't give a fuck if it's Zero, or does that mean I really care?
OTOH, could it be that at full scale, 5000 is the ultimate in DontGiveAFuck?
Currently that meter is reading nothing, so does that mean,if the former is true, that Rob don't give a fuck, or does it mean the meter isn't hooked up?
More information is required, I'm afraid.
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Tanus said:

I'm afraid as well. It could represent the number of people who give a fuck - which in this particular meter's case, is zero. I'm going to go sweep up sawdust at this point... ;-)
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