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Our plan is on the brink of collapse. If we had been as affected by the recent recession as the rest of the world was, we'd be f*cked. Health care takes up almost 50% of the provincial budget here in Saskatchewan.
There is NO room left.
50%. Think about that.
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:26:33 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone

Take out a tree or two. There's plenty of room up there. ;)

That's good. It means that your administrative overhead is small(er). Look at D.C. and the crap they plan for this healthcare debacle!
http://fwd4.me/J4T says Canadian healthcare cost 9/8% of GDP in '05. Why is Saskatchewan so heavy on the medical? Lower incomes? Fewer people? What?
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You say GDP. I say provincial gummint budget.
WTF does one have to do with the other? GDP is the biggest piece of bullshit economic measures ever invented. When it comes to government spending what's important is "How much are they stealing from me?"
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wrote:

Truth?
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Larry Blanchard wrote:

In many cases "it works" because the people don't know or expect any better. For example, in the UK they don't expect anesthetics for tooth extractions.
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That's because they're tough enough to play Rugby and aren't as wimpy as some other people.
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I call BULLSHIT on that assertion. And I've got relatives all over the UK who Hate the system.
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Larry Blanchard wrote:

Well me, and about 70% of America.
Or, it never does work, and everyone is out of step but you.
Or you, and about 26% of Amerika.
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:02:30 -0400, the infamous Jack Stein

Those who seek to control us are gaining ever more control. It goes beyond politics, too. Reps put in the Patriot Acts. Dems grabbed GM, mortgages, and some banks. Now Dems are after more of the treasury and a life-or-death rebalancing. Scary times.
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Larry Jaques wrote:

The plan for the health insurance companies seems to be to regulate them until they're insolvent, then take them over because they're "too big to fail" and now we have the government health insurance option - and the only option. Should only take 3-5 years under the new law.
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:24:24 -0700, the infamous Doug Winterburn

Or sooner. The smart ones will sell out or just close their doors, moving on to the next lucrative field. Legal transcription, maybe?
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scrawled the following:

All we are saying, Is just read the Bill ...
Most of the payout does not start until 2014. In the meantime the insurance companies will be doubling and re-doubling their fees. When 2014 kicks in they will party like it's 1910! Be the biggest return on investment they've ever seen from the best President and Congress they could buy.
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:02:52 -0400, "J. Clarke"

To bolster your argument you're comparing a table saw to country wide health insurance?
That's not even remotely on the level of an apples and oranges comparison. It's just a fall flat, 6 1/2 IQ demonstration of shooting your foot off with a bazooka.
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On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:01:40 -0500, the infamous Upscale

No, Uppy. He made a valid point.
Why are you in this debate, anyway? You don't even live here! What do you expect to win?
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I have no idea why he's taking the stand he's taking, but what happens south of the 49th is of great concern to us north of same.
We're watching your economy into slow death spiral, with Obamacare only the latest and probably not the last rocket to fire.
And our economy is so tied to yours that, frankly, I'm bloody nervous.
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:20:26 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone

_You're_ nervous? You're the one backing the Obamaflush of our economy! I don't get it. We see our futures in the swirlies and it's not fun to look at that kind of possibility, especially when it's initiated by our own leader. <shudder>
If this healthcare plan goes through as it appears, it'll be like getting gutshot by that bazooka you mentioned. Half the country will be working for the gov't and the other half will be whipped, chained, and working to pay for the overloaded mess. At least until it falls dead from the weight and strain.
"Bloody nervous" doesn't begin to cover it.
Oh, my sister (Naturopath) and niece are both in the healthcare field and neither has insurance now. But they're still Obama fans. Go figure. I need to find out how they feel about his fancy, new "accomplishment".
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What? Neither I nor Canada as a nation are backing the Obama plan. We're up here saying as little as possible and praying we can hold on to the lid when the big flush happens!
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:53:33 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone

You've been saying how wonderful it is that he passed it for a few days now. I'd call that "backing", wouldn't you?

Yeah, you're definitely close enough to get sprayed. ;)
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wrote:

Maybe you will. I'd rather be shooting.
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On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:10:15 -0700, the infamous "LDosser"

No comment. <evil Hoppes #9 grin>
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