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Do you not have transcripts of those debates? Newspaper records? I'm sure you could find out if you wanted to.
Just guessing, but the Library of Congress seems to me to be a likely starting point.
But Google reveals a fair bit if you're interested. Try this:
<http://openlibrary.org/b/OL6531545M/federal_graduated_income_tax_a_deba te>
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Lew Hodgett wrote:

You consider the out of control government we have now to be "surviving". Very apt analogy, one of the most pivotal points in the destruction of our federal republic form of government was the enactment of the 16th amendment, giving the federal government the ability to reach directly into the pockets of the citizens of the states. In so doing, it gained direct control over state and local budgets by "returning" those funds taken from the states' citizens in the form of block grants and programs -- but at the price of strings attached forcing states to bow to the will of the federal legislators. That is exactly why the founders specifically prohibited the federal government from directly taxing the citizens of the country.
Yeah, great analogy

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On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:48:48 -0600, the infamous Dave Balderstone

You're absolutely right, Dave. But a few of us read small portions of it when it was only 1,000 pages long. You don't have to watch the entire train wreck--after you see the first wheel leave the track--to know that what's going to happen, do you?

The main protagonist, Speakerette of the House Nancy Pugnosi, ACKs that she hasn't even read it and doesn't understand it. What more do you need to know about the people who voted for it and those who wouldn't? Which side seems like the bad guys to you, Dave?

Absolutely! The Libtards are reading beauty, goodness, and light things into it that aren't there and they are completely glossing over the infringements it enacts into law. Their brains are wired differently than ours, unfortunately.

Ouch. So, do you see _anything_ related to actual healthcare, or socialized healthcare, in this bill?
Forced insurance is not care, and it's not compassionate, a word the libs seem to find comforting in describing themselves and their new King. Go figure.
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This will help the economy by creating new jobs. Like the 16,000 IRS agents to become enforcers.
I'm applying for a job on the Death Panels. I already have a list!
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Robatoy wrote:

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Given that health insurance company profits are among the lowest in industry, that isn't going to be much.
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On 3/22/2010 11:43 AM, Leon wrote:

Well, you see this is the nice sweet honest trustworthy government that has all our best interests at heart doing it, not some EEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLL (by definition) corporation.
Never mind that the main beneficiary will be the insurance industry, which gets a huge influx of new policy sales from healthy young people (paying the same rates as sick old people) who are now required to buy insurance or else.
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I will make a prediction... this thread will hit 1000
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