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Thank you for the perspective.
I hope it's a true one. In both directions we hear "It sux" or "It
works for me"
I know I am wrong about just about everything. So I
am not going to listen when I am told I am wrong about
the things I know I am right about.
I'm starting to get more and more to the "if it isn't broke, don't fix
it" state of mind. My software is all running reasonably well (having
trouble with Teranews, but that's not a machine problem); why mess with it?
I really don't want to spend a day reloading stuff.
It is a security update. Redundant if you already have adequate computer
security. I had to uninstall it because internet explorer and outlook
express became painfully slow. Might not be true for those without an
existing security program.
When I installed the SP2 pack my computer operated very slowly for about 2
days.. Now, everything is back up to speed. I recall someone saying that
it would be a day or 2 before everything seemed to be running at regular
Leon -- First, I do not deny to you any of this. But, I do read lots of
on-line news every day about consumer/PC tech and have not (yet) seen this.
I also went to some MS MVP XP websites and could not find mention of it.
I'd love to see a press story w/ an official Dell/MS (or any PC-Co)
explanation. In this thread, George mentions disk optimization. I am
extremely skeptical about that in this instance. A single reboot I can see
for reg revisions, but a *gradual* self-repair - like a white blood-cell
defense to a bio virus? I'd be fascinated to see that this IS true. But I
wait in special skepticism. Thanks for the additional post about Dell. --
Igor, there's a number of programs that monitor user usage and then adjust
themselves accordingly. XP even in it's most basic, no service pack
installed form, is capable of doing some of these tasks. If you're a user of
XP, have you ever had it offer to clean up unused programs or perhaps, to
get rid of little used icons on your desktop? It's just a time/dated routine
that runs in the background and monitors when a program was last used.
When you write, "there's a number of programs that monitor user usage and
then adjust themselves", do you mean add-ons or within MS? I know MS OSs
have some such aps within, but they seem far from adaptive. More like
taskmgr stuff. Then there are e.g. Norton System Works aps. BTW, as may
be apparent, I am NOT an OS guy. Just an advanced user.
Restore or registry reversion, or a defrag (all of which I do manually,
though I suppose they can be auto-done) can improve performance. But I
have never had a series of blue screens, or even lesser issues, fixed
automatically. I've never even had overall slow performance solved
automatically -- unless you call a surprise crash (beyond blue sceen right
to reboot) and a reboot an autofix. For example, I have an XP machine P2P
to a 98 machine. When the XP machine lists files on the 98 machine, there
can be a long delay. In the past week I found a registry tweak for this at
an MS MVP (i.e., non-MS) site. Now, XP could have seen that it was taking
too long (by some measure) to show a list of files via the network and
looked on its own to the MS KB for the tweak. There is an MS article about
it - and while MS apparently knows about the tweak they do not show it,
Now, as I just finished that, I do realize that I have turned off error
reporting (too many clicks to clear and not enough clarity as to what is
and is not sent). So, maybe XP COULD do all this great stuff if I let it.
Anyway, this stuff would be great. I don't trust MS -- not because it is a
monolith (notwithstanding Linux). Maybe I've missed it, but I have never
seen MS issue a security patch that said, "We found a problem and here is
the patch..." Have THEY ever paid a bunch of Russians to ty to crack
Windows or the MS server? MS says it will start selling AV software. It's
like buying insurance from Masterlock against the possibility that someone
will pick your Masterlock lock. I want A to watch B, not B to watch
itself. Anyway, sorry for the mini-rant. I do appreciate your taking the
time to make the points you have. -- Igor
I was talking mainly from within the OS, but we're starting to see other
programs behave in the same way. I do admit though, that there's a general
fear, (and not necessarily unfounded) that if we let programs fix themselves
without intervention, then we open ourselves up to unwitting manipulation
from the technologically adept. Hell, we could even be on the cusp of
self-awareness for all I know and the "Terminator" movies might not be too
far off from reality.
I think as long as we get the option to turn something off or let it run at
its inception, then at least we've maintained a modicrum of control. That
control might very well be, probably *is* an illusion, but it's one that
gives a semblence of comfort.
Found a problem on your system, or found a problem in general? If they came
to you and said they'd found a problem on your system, then they could well
be accused of spying on personal property. As far as finding problems in
general, I think they do that all the time, at least in respect to improving
system performance or capability. Of course that's open to discussion as to
whether things are improving or just becoming more bloated.
That was information from a technician given to a friend. I took that into
consideration when I installed SP2 on 3 Dell's last week. They all ran and
"especially booted slowly for a day or 2". Now everything seems normal on
all 3 units.
My guess would be the "Indexing Service" of SP2 has to reindex the drive. I
keep this service set to "manual" and did not notice any slow down after
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