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snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:

Are you sure the apps you mention do not function on win 7. Just because it isn't listed for it doesn't mean it wont run.
Another option is to just have the computer do some very processing heavy app (like a high spec 3d game or something). Have it keep running through so that it is really working hard.
Keep that up for 48 hours (or whatever you want - but 24+). If it is still running and working then I doubt there is anything happened. I did find a "test" for Ram once - I would download and download and almost every time the file was messed up - turned out my ram had gone bad. It was still allowing the system to run but data was corrupted.
If it is running and not crashing - sounds like it is fine.
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On Tue, 6 Mar 2012 21:45:14 -0800 (PST), " snipped-for-privacy@aol.com"

I remember those vividly. I used to test all memory and hard drives with 'em.

Ask a local computer shop who does anti-virus work for a suggestion. They usually have the best techs.
Or googlit: "computer testing software" and cautiously download some from a known good site, like PCWORLD, CNET, or TUCOWS. http://tinyurl.com/66hgdt
I think I'd just send the thing back if it were mine. Be sure to write down the serial number so it doesn't come back.
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On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 07:11:03 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote:

This seems to be the nearly universal advice. I definitely agree with it. A new computer has enough probability of failure during the first 6 months that you'd like to be sure it wasn't the shipping damage that was responsible.
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snipped-for-privacy@invalid.diversifycomm.com says...

More than the serial number - write down the MAC address of the network controller. Serial number labels or the case pieces they are glued to can be changed. Less likely that the MAC address would be changed unless the unit went through a factory test after a re-furb.
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Robert,
Take a look at SpinRite at www.grc.com
Your current issue may not warrant the cost of the program. However, going forward with whatever you decide to do with the laptop, you may find it a useful tool.
I've seen some scenarios where dropping a laptop has dislodged internal components, such as RAM or video cards, that once reseated allowed the laptop to work again.
The usual disclaimers apply. No affiliation with the company, just a satisfied end-user.
Hope this helps. Let us know what you decide and how it turns out.
Peter.

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On Tuesday, March 6, 2012 9:45:14 PM UTC-8, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:

Why? You didn't buy the box, you bought the computer. And, if it isn't visibly physically damaged, and has normal disk/screen/keyboard functions, why would you want to test things (like memory) that AREN'T particularly likely to take stress/shock damage?
Discard the packaging and enjoy the computer; life's too short to agonize over imaginary problems.
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whit3rd wrote:

He bought the computer at retail from Tiger Direct. People who do that do not think like most of us.
I just bought five Dell desktops for $100 (total). If one or more of the desktops act a little funny, well, no great loss.
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On 03/10/2012 04:54 PM, HeyBub wrote:

well be a result of bad electrolytic capacitors. Her PC started hanging with no other indications. I opened it up and six or eight of the electrolytics were bulging out the top. Sent the MB to these guys:
http://www.badcaps.net /
Got it back for under a hundred bucks with every electrolytic on the MB replaced. Been working great now for almost a year where it was hanging every few hours before.
Apparently, the chiwanese have been shipping electrolytics for all kinds of devices that were like many of their other products.
I also had a rocketfish wireless speaker receiver fail for the same reason. I may try to see if I can replace the bad caps myself as I already hard wired the surround speakers.
The cheapest components to produce the cheapest product doesn't always pay off for the consumer.
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Doug Winterburn wrote:

Good point. I salvaged a 36" LCD TV that had bad capacitors. For about six bucks worth of replacement caps and a couple of hours with a screwdriver and soldering iron, the TV is as good as new.
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"HeyBub" wrote in message wrote:

He bought the computer at retail from Tiger Direct. People who do that do not think like most of us.
I just bought five Dell desktops for $100 (total). If one or more of the desktops act a little funny, well, no great loss. ============================================================486's
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On 3/10/2012 6:51 PM, CW wrote:

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HeyBub wrote:

Please help me translate that last sentence.

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Bill wrote:

Uh, okay. Sorry for the "whoosh" factor.
It seems to me that most participants here are interested in price. A new computer costs, well, a lot and often you're paying for the newest technology that's not really necessary.
Used, last year's model, computers can be had at a significant bargain, sometimes on Craigslist, often you have to search around.
I got my used computers from a chap that buys them in bulk from Dell and others. These used computers are generally those that have come back off lease to banks and other large companies.
Last time I was there he had about ten large pallets, stacked five feet high, with 15" CRT monitors. In this country, you can't GIVE away a 15" CRT. His monitors, however, were going to Nigeria. He told me he expects to net about $25 each.
Point is, there's a thriving market for used equipment: CRT monitors to Nigeria or two-year old desktops to me.
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wrote:

Necessary to some. A guy at work is specing out a new computer. He is in the $1800 range with a fancy graphics card, Quad processor, lots of memory, etc. He needs it to store some music and pictures and his wife can check here Facebook page.
Not to mention that he is also looking for the absolute lowest price, no matter the quality of the components.
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says...

He's looking for a status symbol. A quad core machine with 8 gig ram, a terabyte of disk, and a reasonably fancy video board can be had from Best Buy for about 800 bucks.
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My first computer was an 8088 with two 5 1/4" floppies. Eventually added a 30MB HD for about $300 and that was in the 1980's. Another upgrade was the 24 pin printer over the 9 pin.
My Pentium 90 was about $3500, but I did spend the extra $300 for the 17" monitor. That was over the cost of the 14" base model.
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I have a TI994/a as my first computer. 1 mHz processor, storage was mainly on cassette tapes, and the joystick up button didn't work if the Alpha Lock key was down. There were no lowercase letters either. Lower case was small caps. It came with a Speech Synthesizer so games could talk to you.
Neat little machine, though. Even in 2012 Parsec is a fun game to play. "Press Fire to Begin" it'd say. "Warning: Alien Craft Advancing." "Nice Shot Pilot." "Nice Shooting." and a few more phrases.
It's responsible for my love of Small Caps fonts and TI calculators.
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It might have some value today, especially if your video modulator is still in good shape. (I had some problems with the cable going bad.)
I've still got mine, in fact it's hooked up right now. Parsec is in the cartridge slot now, Blasto is nearby. (Old computers is a hobby of mine.)
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Wow. I just threw out a unit with an 8 digit readout and 20 key keypad in order to trim down for a move. The box I made out of finished oak was nice though.
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It might have some value today, especially if your video modulator is still in good shape. (I had some problems with the cable going bad.)
I've still got mine, in fact it's hooked up right now. Parsec is in the cartridge slot now, Blasto is nearby. (Old computers is a hobby of mine.)
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On 3/11/2012 11:15 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

About 5 years ago I was in an antique store in Indiana and they had a Commodore 64. They were asking $100 for it.
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