O/T: Abby Sunderland

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On Fri, 21 May 2010 22:53:12 -0700, "Lew Hodgett"

She appears to have lost weight (10+ lbs) since she set sail. Looking good. Go, Abby!
-- Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. - Blaise Pascal
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wrote the following:

Must be the lack of cheeseburgers out at sea.
Looks like kids are going after all sorts of records. There is a 13 yo attempting Mt Everest amidst clams it borders on child abuse. Climbing Everest is a feat under any circumstance, but it is a lot easier that it ever was. There are a couple of guide outfits that can get you there for about $60,000 or so. The Sherpas do much of the preliminary work putting ropes in place. There was a four part series on TV a few months back showing how it is done. I said "easier", but still a brutal challenge to get there.
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote:

--------------------------------------- He has done it along with his father.
Lew
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I saw that about an hour after I posted http://sports.yahoo.com/top/news?slug=ys-everestboy052210
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From her 06/07/2010 blog:
"Update from the Middle of the Indian Ocean"
She is gaining on it.
Details available at:
http://tinyurl.com/y9kdowu
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http://abcnews.go.com/2020/abby-sunderland-possibly-lost-sea/story?id=10877108
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"RicodJour" wrote:
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/abby-sunderland-possibly-lost-sea/story?id 877108 ---------------------------------- As of 11:00 PM, PDST:
She is SAFE.
Boat is dismasted.
Details later.
Lew
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Lew Hodgett wrote:

Now if they can just get too her in time?
But - Big YEA!
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I do not want to denigrate the girl's accomplishments, but who is paying for the rescue efforts now?
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"Han" wrote:

----------------------------------------- They have already been paid for, comes under the heading of SAR (Search And Rescue).
SAR units practice every day.
Putting that practice to actual usage is just another "day at the office".
Here in L/A, we have urban SAR teams which include among other things cadaver dogs.
These teams respond world wide.
NYC 911, Katrina and Haiti are just a few plasces that they have served.
Go back to Ben Franklin's day and this same discussion was being had about fire department services.
Lew
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Is SAR going to picked her up??
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"Lobby Dosser" wrote:

--------------------------------- That's part of the package.
Lew
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On 6/12/2010 12:34 AM, Lew Hodgett wrote:

On the Great Lakes a police department SAR unit can go pick you up with a helicopter wherever you are. But Abby was as far from the nearest police department as Los Angeles is from New York. Australian Search and Rescue had to borrow an airliner from QANTAS just to have something with enough range to reach her, and any ship dispatched from Australia would have taken a week to get there. They sent the closest vessel they could contact, which was a French fishing ship. She'll probably stay aboard that ship until it reaches port.
So, no, SAR was not going to and did not pick her up.
How it's all going to get paid for really depends on the attitudes of those involved--the Australians have stated that they're footing the bill for their part of it, what the French will do Lord knows, but I suspect that they'll let it slide too since it didn't cost them much and they got a good story out of it.
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No, it isn't. The one ship I've seen identified is a fishing vessel. That's not SAR. And Australia SAR had to rent an aircraft.
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"Lobby Dosser" wrote:

-------------------------------------------- Sounds like the prudent use of available resources to me.
OZ took the lead.
They had an emitting EPIRB beacon to locate the boat, an airplane with the range to physically find the boat a SAR crew onboard to determine additional resource requirements as well as where to draw them from.
Given the conditions, what more could you ask?
There is a bond among mariners.
You provide assistance when you can.
Lew
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The initiators of the stunt Pay so that someone in real need can be helped.

And eventually the "Stunt" sailors will wear that down.
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On 6/12/2010 9:35 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:

So who in real need is not being helped?

So how many "stunt sailors" have had to be rescued in the past 40 years? And how many doing things that you believe are socially acceptable have had to be rescued? Sorry, but it's not the solo circumnavigators who are taking the lion's share of SAR costs. It's the cruise ships and fishing trawlers and oil tankers and the rest.
One teenaged solo circumnavigator has needed rescue in the entire history of the world. 19 cruise ships have needed rescue in the past 20 years. If you want to bitch about SAR costs, bitch at THEM.
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Whomever they don't have money for in Oz.

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On 6/12/2010 11:08 PM, Lobby Dosser wrote:

Please identify such a person.

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Why? You Know they haven't covered Everybody. Ask an Aborigine.
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