Sort of hard to add to what JOAT said in summing up the general feeling on
the Wreck. As has been pointed out Norm sparked interest in woodworking. He
got started in the entertainment business by being a subcontractor on jobs
for TOH. His background is that of carpenter rather than furniture maker or
boat builder although he does an adequate job on these other areas. To
compare his work with the likes of Sam Maloof would not be appropriate.
Likewise, seeing a show on Sam Maloof would be very interesting, but could
you imagine him doing a weekly TV show and gaining any ratings?
What annoys? Most of my life I've worked with pine. I'm just getting to
where I can afford a little hardwood now and then. This last weekend I
watched the rerun of Norms roll top desk. I enjoy this show because I've
built a roll top in pine and would love to do one in oak like Norms. I
cringe when I see him nail thru the lift bars on the tambour where the holes
will be visible to everyone that looks at the piece. I know that a lot of
this is driven by TV schedules and a lot is driven by Norm's background. As
Roy pointed out, nail vs. clamps only, or maybe screws from the back.
Another thing that annoys is his use of glue. I don't care how much he uses,
but the fact that he gets away with it is annoying. Whether I wipe with a
sponge, or let dry and scrape, I always end up with a white mark someplace
that won't take finish.
So much for rambling. JOAT said it: "Norm is good, Roy is good, Bob is
On 09 Dec 2003, Coach Mike spake unto rec.woodworking:
Bob is willing to shill any product for any advertiser willing to pay
his fee. His personal integrity in this regard places him well below used
car salesmen and real estate agents; but, to his credit, somewhat higher
than personal injury lawyers.
That doesn't make him evil, actually. Just beneath contempt.
He WAS a used car salesman. Don't you remember the lawsuit he got hit
with for acting as a general contractor on that house out in
California. It all came out when he was deposed. He never had a
subcontractor license or any notable experience.
Dave in Fairfax
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daveldr at att dot net
Um... and Norm isn't? The New Yankee Workshop, brought to you by
every tool Porter Cable could stuff into the shop? At least when you
look at someone like David Marks, it's his shop, they're his tools,
it's his wood and he isn't kissing any advertiser's ass.
<<That's true. Located in Burlington, Vermont. Same place that the
Victory Gardenshow takes place.>>
Burlington, VT is where you send for the New Yankee Workshop tapes. The
shop itself is in the greater Boston area (Lexington, MA, I believe). It
was also the site of the Victory Garden when Morash was producer of that
show. But he hasn't been for the past two years and the Victory Garden now
has all new personnel and a different location.
To e-mail, replace "bucketofspam" with "dleegordon"
As does any company that underwrites any show on PBS. Can't remember the
last time I saw Norm pitching for PC on DIY, or HGTV. If I see one more
poorly designed, chinese made, attempt at a tool being pushed by Bob Villa
with a Craftsman logo.............well I don't know what I would
do.........but it can't be nice.
PBS exists through at least four money channels, organized charities and
philanthropic organizations, government grants and subsidies, private
donations and memberships, and lastly corporate underwriting on specific
shows that allows the corporate entities to mention there name twice, once
at the start of the show and once at the end.
Let me ask you this, are you a member of your local PBS station? TV or
Radio? And if not, why not.
What has Sesame Street done to you, are you afraid of Mr. Rogers? Be careful
or Marian Morash will come over and cook one of her horrendous dishes for
you, and you will find Roger Swain taking up residence in your home.
All this with tongue planted firmly in cheek!!!
They are called 'sponsors'...and I would hardly equate that with
"kissing and advertisers ass". Somebody has to pay for the shows?
Are you a regular donator to your local PBS station? If not, then
shut your trap - you're getting something for nothing and if you
don't like it, the rest of us don't care. If you think it's so
easy to produce a good product that many people use but barely anyone
pays for...then step up to the plate!
If you are (a donator), then surely you understand that the money
for these shows must come from somewhere...and most people watch
for free, but don't pay.
So Brian, would YOU care to pay for the production of NYW? You watch
it; perhaps you should help pay for it. Then they can pull all those
shots of PC tools you despise so much.
Brian Henderson wrote:
Having family that works at WGBH in Boston, I was privileged? to get some of
the dirt when he decided to leave TOH. Did I say leave? Actually it was kind
of mutual, WGBH wanted him gone, and he wanted more money, so he was allowed
As you can probably tell, he wanted Sears to be the exclusive supplier to
the show, because they would compensate him personally. This sort of danced
around the no commercials format of PBS.
The contractors revolted a little, they didn't want to be told what tools
they had to use. First ripple in the water.
He wanted to be more in control of the format, the show, and force his
ideas. Russ Morash is said to have laughed for days. Second larger ripple.
Most of the supplies are donations, lumber, plumbing, windows, and on and
on. All of which the home owner is responsible for come Tax time. As a home
owner you have to sign over lots of creative and repair rights to the
producers, who do their best to contain budget. The problem WGBH had with
Bob was he consistently made choices/changes that most times caused budgets
to explode, hence causing many many lawsuits. Ripples became tidal waves on
Then he said the two magic words, "Sears" and "Money"
WGBH said "Goodbye Bob".
I suppose maybe you should ask him that question.
Personally I seem him as more as a big prick in itty-bitty
pants. Evil would be if he actually had some influence.
He's fairly benign but hard to stomach.
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